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Cricket: NZ vs England

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    CDG and Boult out of Second Test

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/117744213/new-zealand-v-england-black-caps-lose-trent-boult-colin-de-grandhomme-for-second-test

    John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson

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      and in a nice touch, our coach belittles the entire English team.

      "Black Caps coach Gary Stead on Tuesday said there was no need to risk Boult at Hamilton with bigger cricketing fish to fry across the Ta$man."

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        CdG will be a huge loss but we need to keep the ND quota in the team. 😉

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.

          Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.

          It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.

          Some perspective would be nice

          How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?

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          @Hooroo something more robust than unofficial twitter accusation would be a start.

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            Bugger about big strong Colin. Has become that cricketer where you stop what you're doing to watch him

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            • SiamS Siam

              @Hooroo something more robust than unofficial twitter accusation would be a start.

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              @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

              @Hooroo something more robust than unofficial twitter accusation would be a start.

              How come?

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                With regard to the racism issue - why is there an immediate assumption that the "attack" was by a Kiwi.

                I find it entirely plausible that a pissed up Pom, disappointed at his side being trounced, decided to take it out on the Great White (sic) Hope of their bowling attack who had massively under-achieved.

                If there was a racist taunt I am all in favour of a lifetime ban but I am disturbed that no one else has come forward to corroborate the story. Normally there's no shortage of posters on social media when these things emerge.

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                • No QuarterN Online
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                  Really excited to see Ferg get a go in the test arena. He has a very good first class record in the longer form so no reason why he won't go well. He and Wags could be a very difficult combination to face.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    Really excited to see Ferg get a go in the test arena. He has a very good first class record in the longer form so no reason why he won't go well. He and Wags could be a very difficult combination to face.

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                    @No-Quarter I'm a bit more cautious ( pessismistic from years of Heath Davis, Brendon Stirling, someone Drum dashed hopes) on young Locky. Admittedly i haven't seen him bowl a red ball, but raw pace alone doesn't bother elite batsmen without a run rate in play.

                    I'd be ecstatic for him to prove me wrong and it's up to him to forge a place, which is cool.

                    Won't be surprised to see Henry recalled with a specific role to play.

                    I'd like to be wrong though

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @Hooroo something more robust than unofficial twitter accusation would be a start.

                      How come?

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                      @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @Hooroo something more robust than unofficial twitter accusation would be a start.

                      How come?

                      I'm not sure what you're asking.

                      How come a story started on Twitter turns out to be lacking substance?
                      How come he didn't alert officials first?
                      How come he didn't identify the transgressor, ala Adam Goodes?
                      How come his tweet removes due process for "convicting" a "racist"?
                      How come it's been picked up by clickbait media willing to paint NZers as racist?

                      How come a professional cricketer doesn't have the tools or knowledge to cope with nonsense talk?
                      How come he hasn't defined what he wants to accomplish with his tweet?
                      How come his accusation demonstrates nothing other than perhaps there was one guy in a 5 day crowd with limited intelligence?

                      It's a thin story with delicious outrage and generalisation potential. Dogmeat raised more good considerations.

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                        #462

                        Oh and nice to exorcise the ghost of the Panesar drawn test in Eden Park a few years ago.

                        Really need a big effort in Hamilton...or 3 days of rain!

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                        • SiamS Siam

                          Oh and nice to exorcise the ghost of the Panesar drawn test in Eden Park a few years ago.

                          Really need a big effort in Hamilton...or 3 days of rain!

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                          @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          Oh and nice to exorcise the ghost of the Panesar drawn test in Eden Park a few years ago.

                          Really need a big effort in Hamilton...or 3 days of rain!

                          There seems to be plenty of draws in cricket with England which have been defeat recently. Many many ghosts!

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                            Some context and collaboration corroboration

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                            What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

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                              @booboo oh, so I guess Kane doesn't need to apologise on behalf of New Zealanders. Root needs to step up and apologise on behalf of of the English then.

                              The plot thickens.

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                                Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

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                                @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                                Edit. Me not word good

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                  What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

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                                  @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                  What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                                  The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

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                                    Prolly saying he is an undercover BC.

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                                      @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                      Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                      What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                                      The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

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                                      @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                      @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                      Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                      What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                                      The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                                      And how is that racist?

                                      Funny? Yes.

                                      Racist? Hmm

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/117739296/how-father-figure-chris-kuggeleijn-shaped-the-career-of-black-cap-bj-watling

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                          What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                                          The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                                          And how is that racist?

                                          Funny? Yes.

                                          Racist? Hmm

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                                          Machpants
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                                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          Some context and collaboration corroboration

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                                          What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                                          The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                                          And how is that racist?

                                          Funny? Yes.

                                          Racist? Hmm

                                          Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

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