Electric Vehicles
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@NTA Did you see the launch? I thought it was an immense practical joke and they'd bring out the real one. One not drawn by a five year old with just a ruler.
The funniest bit was the window demonstration. Even the audience, who make Apple fanboys look discerning, went quiet.
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@antipodean I turned off at the point where they fucked the window up - twice - expecting to check in later to see the real truck.
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Watched some of the Formula E
Yeah nah
Motor racing needs noise. Hi pitched whistling isn't going to do it
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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
Watched some of the Formula E
Yeah nah
Motor racing needs noise. Hi pitched whistling isn't going to do it
Yeah nah maybe, for me.
First one that I have watched. A couple of Kiwis in there is good to add some interest.
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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
Watched some of the Formula E
Yeah nah
Motor racing needs noise. Hi pitched whistling isn't going to do it
It's the future unfortunately. Hybrids I love because they have that stonking acceleration and the great noise of an engine screaming.
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I've brought my electric vehicle for the work commute. It will pay itself off in 2 or 3 years (depending on how serious I take rain, and how often I actually need a vehicle). Outside of changing from riding gear to work clothes, I don't think I will lose any time compared to car trip over the 26km
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@Machpants if I still had a commute I’d be very tempted by these. Was having a look in the shop in the weekend.
As for the CyberTruck it’s very polarising to say the least. I lean towards liking it, but I’ll probably date faster than a Delorian.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Goes to the heart of the problem with autonomy in free space: unless everyone has it, nobody is safe.
Hes an interesting guy, this was the first time I heard of him https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car/?cmpid=twtr1
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@Kirwan said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Goes to the heart of the problem with autonomy in free space: unless everyone has it, nobody is safe.
As opposed to how safe we are now?
Unfortunately, that's irrelevant. Because we are a useless race, AV's will always be measured against perfection rather than looked at as a significant improvement on the status quo.
That's why I'm so bearish on them in Australia, I just can't see them being accepted any time soon when a single accident will set the timeline back so much.
Somewhere like Singapore though, or entire Chinese provinces, absolutely.
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
@Kirwan said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Goes to the heart of the problem with autonomy in free space: unless everyone has it, nobody is safe.
As opposed to how safe we are now?
Unfortunately, that's irrelevant. Because we are a useless race, AV's will always be measured against perfection rather than looked at as a significant improvement on the status quo.
That's why I'm so bearish on them in Australia, I just can't see them being accepted any time soon when a single accident will set the timeline back so much.
Somewhere like Singapore though, or entire Chinese provinces, absolutely.
They have already had fatalities in the states, doesn't seem to be halting things too much.
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Sample sizes are too small to accurately say whether vehicle autonomy is safer or not.
IMHO the key to autonomy is having vehicles communicate with vehicles - they can do it faster and better than humans. As the video above demonstrates, the only time the guy's software really got into trouble was when a ute cut them off.
If Car A knew Car B was about to do that, Car A would be able to react.
Anyone remember Minority Report where Cruise jumps onto that "car" that was scaling down a building? Seamlessly moving in and around other vehicles. That would be the goal.
But how do you do that without having everything on the same net?
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Sample sizes are too small to accurately say whether vehicle autonomy is safer or not.
IMHO the key to autonomy is having vehicles communicate with vehicles - they can do it faster and better than humans. As the video above demonstrates, the only time the guy's software really got into trouble was when a ute cut them off.
If Car A knew Car B was about to do that, Car A would be able to react.
Anyone remember Minority Report where Cruise jumps onto that "car" that was scaling down a building? Seamlessly moving in and around other vehicles. That would be the goal.
But how do you do that without having everything on the same net?
Sensors on the car and predictive algorithms. Or maybe a mesh local network?
I’d prefer the first option, at least to start. They showed how the software tracks pedestrians and cyclists to try and anticipate unusual paths, it’s pretty amazing.
At the very least, these cars will stop eons before a human driver when something goes wrong.
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@Kirwan did you see that footage of a Tesla that stopped because the car in front of the truck it was following stopped? Crazy.
Local mesh would be preferable. Saw an article from Microsoft - well it was more of a sales pitch - quoting between 20 and 100TB of data per day for autonomous vehicles "so hey why not use Azure?"
I think there will be a shitload of data BUT there needs to be some kind of rational debate on what is temporary and what is valuable as a long-term prospect. Temporary traffic issues are useful if they're added to a hierarchy as some form of summary data e.g. Date + Duration + Location for predictive analytics of macro traffic.
But every individual point from every individual car? Hmmm... limited value for some of it. Instantaneous in some cases.
