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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @OomPB said in Springboks moving forward:

    @MajorRage :confused_face: I tried a few years back but wasnt welcome. Diversity is a very good thing. My english improved in Sydney.

    That's not something you hear everyday. :winking_face:

    Welcome back Uncle PB

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    RWC Squad in 2020:

    Retired :Schalk Brits, Tendai Mtawarira

    Japan: Malcolm Marx, RG Snyman & Damian de Allende - Munster?, Kwagga Smith, Duane Vermeulen, Jesse Kriel, Willie le Roux

    S15:
    Stormers: Bongi Mbonambi (Kings), Steven Kitshoff, Frans Malherbe, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi, Herschel Jantjies, Damian Willemse
    Sharks: Thomas du Toit, Lukhanyo Am, Makazole Mapimpi, S'busiso Nkosi
    Bulls: Trevor Nyakane, Warrick Gelant ,
    Lions: Elton Jantjies

    England
    Vincent Koch - Saracens, Lood de Jager - Sale, Franco Mostert - Gloucester, Francois Louw - Bath, Faf de Klerk - Sale Sharks, Cobus Reinach - Northampton

    France:
    Eben Etzebeth - Toulon, Handré Pollard - Montpellier, François Steyn - Montpellier, Cheslin Kolbe - Toulouse,

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      Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

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        @dogmeat said in Springboks moving forward:

        Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

        Rassie is going to Director of Rugby role, not hands on coaching - I wonder how much he wil stick his oar in, can cause problems for a new, esp inexperienced like the favourite to take the role, coach to take ownership.

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          @dogmeat said in Springboks moving forward:

          Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

          Rassie is going to Director of Rugby role, not hands on coaching - I wonder how much he wil stick his oar in, can cause problems for a new, esp inexperienced like the favourite to take the role, coach to take ownership.

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          @Machpants Nienaber is the favourite to take over the coaching role.

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            Heyneke Meyer needs a job again. 🙂

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            • OomPBO OomPB

              @Machpants Nienaber is the favourite to take over the coaching role.

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              @OomPB said in Springboks moving forward:

              Nienaber

              Yeah and he has no head coaching experience. So will it just be a head coach in name only? Otherwise he is far too inexperienced

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                It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

                Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
                
                ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
                
                Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
                

                https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolbe-targeting-tokyo-olympics/

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

                  Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
                  
                  ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
                  
                  Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
                  

                  https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolbe-targeting-tokyo-olympics/

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                  @Stargazer said in Springboks moving forward:

                  It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

                  Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
                  
                  ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
                  
                  Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
                  

                  https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolbe-targeting-tokyo-olympics/

                  Will be interesting to see how this managed by SA Rugby.
                  The SA Sevens setup generally shies away from "XV's imports" for these events (although it does happen) because Sevens has become such a specialist game. But Kolbe did spend a long time with them before, so it is not new to him.
                  But I suspect, they'd like him with the Sevens team pretty exclusive of any other commitments.

                  If he goes that route, it opens up opportunities elsewhere. S'bu Nkosi would get back to show his skills, which are not unimpressive.

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                    For want of a better place to put this:

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                    • OomPBO OomPB

                      Hi all, its been some time since I have been in my root forum and good to see most of the old timers still going strong.

                      The Springboks have made us all very proud and are looking forward to the future.

                      After we won the previous two WC's we lost control via coaches and players loss but this time Rassie will still control after he build us some real player depth.

                      Our player movement are:
                      Confirmed out:
                      Schalk Brits (38), Beast Mtawarira (34), Flo Louw (34)

                      Possibly out before RWC 2023:
                      Bongi Mbonambi (30), Vincent Koch (29), Trevor Nyakane (30), Duane Vermeulen (33), Cobus Reinach (29), Elton Jantjies (29), Frans Steyn (32), Makazole Mapimpi (29), Willie le Roux (30)

                      This leave is with :
                      Malcolm Marx (25), Thomas du Toit (24), Steven Kitshoff (27), Frans Malherbe (28), Lood de Jager (26), Eben Etzebeth (27), Franco Mostert (28), RG Snyman (24), Pieter-Steph du Toit (27), Siya Kolisi (28), Kwagga Smith (26), Faf de Klerk (27), Herschel Jantjies (23), Handré Pollard (25)
                      Damian Willemse (21), Lukhanyo Am (25), Damian de Allende (27), Jesse Kriel (25), Cheslin Kolbe (25), S'busiso Nkosi (23), Warrick Gelant (24)

                      Players that got close:
                      Coenie Oosthuizen (30), Marcell Coetzee (28), Jan Serfontein (26) Dillyn Leyds (27)
                      Curwin Bosch (22), Wilco Louw (25) Ox Nché (24) André Esterhuizen (25), Sikhumbuzo Notshe (26), Akker van der Merwe (28), Marvin Orie (26), Marco van Staden (24), Rynhardt Elstadt (29)
                      Lizo Gqoboka (29), Scarra Ntubeni (28)

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                      @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?

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                      • Joan and MaryJ Joan and Mary

                        @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?

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                        @Joan-and-Mary said in Springboks moving forward:

                        @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?

                        Great to see you are still around, my tipping team mate.

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                          Jacques Nienaber was named as the new Springbok coach on Friday as part of a revised coaching panel, that will report directly to Rassie Erasmus, South Africa’s director of rugby.
                          
                          Nienaber is promoted from an assistant coach’s role to carry the day-to-day responsibility while Erasmus will continue to direct strategy in a tweaking of a panel that is heavily accented on continuity.
                          
                          Both Nienaber and Erasmus emphasised that continuity will be paramount for the Boks in 2020.
                          
                          Mzwandile Stick has been reappointed as an assistant coach while in an innovative inclusion, Felix Jones will continue but in a new role as a European-based coaching consultant.
                          
                          There are two new appointments with Deon Davids appointed forwards coach while Daan Human – the Vodacom Bulls’ scrum coach – takes up the same role with the Springboks on a shared basis.
                          
                          ...
                          

                          https://www.springboks.rugby/en/articles/2020/01/24/Bok-coaching-team-confirmed

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                          • M Machpants

                            Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-finally-returns-in-south-africa-with-a-schedule-that-includes-schoolyard-pick-springboks-showdown/

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                            @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                            Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                            Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                            Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                            ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                            Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

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                              @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                              Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                              Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                              Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                              ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                              Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

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                              @Kruse yeah sounds very painful, even with watered pitches

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                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/pollard-issues-message-to-fans-after-his-devastating-injury/

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                                • KruseK Kruse

                                  @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                  Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                  Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                  Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                  ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                  Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

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                                  @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                  @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                  Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                  Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                  Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                  ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                  Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                  yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                    @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                    Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                    Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                    Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                    ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                    Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                    yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in SA Rugby:

                                    @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                    @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                    Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                    Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                    Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                    ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                    Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                    yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

                                    It would be an interesting exercise to do on here. Two people could face off and go pick for pick. You could probably do multiple match ups and each pair would come up with very different sides depending on preference.

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                                    • pukunuiP pukunui

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in SA Rugby:

                                      @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                      @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                      Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                      Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                      Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                      ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                      Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                      yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

                                      It would be an interesting exercise to do on here. Two people could face off and go pick for pick. You could probably do multiple match ups and each pair would come up with very different sides depending on preference.

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                                      @pukunui said in SA Rugby:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in SA Rugby:

                                      @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                      @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                      Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                      Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                      Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                      ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                      Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                      yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

                                      It would be an interesting exercise to do on here. Two people could face off and go pick for pick. You could probably do multiple match ups and each pair would come up with very different sides depending on preference.

                                      Unless one of the pair was @ACT-Crusader ...

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                                      • pukunuiP pukunui

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in SA Rugby:

                                        @Kruse said in SA Rugby:

                                        @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                        Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                        Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                        Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                        ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                        Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

                                        yeah, i think a few of us did, i thought it could have been quite fun

                                        It would be an interesting exercise to do on here. Two people could face off and go pick for pick. You could probably do multiple match ups and each pair would come up with very different sides depending on preference.

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                                        @pukunui id be despertey hoping one of them would miscount and have to stick a prop on the wing

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                                        • KruseK Kruse

                                          @Machpants said in SA Rugby:

                                          Quite like the school yard pick idea!

                                          Yep - somebody here suggested something like that instead of the North vs South ... it would have been awesome. Especially with Foster coaching one team, Razor the other.

                                          Edit: after actually reading the article (bannable offence, I know)...

                                          ...the local competition will continue over Christmas and New Year and will culminate in semi-finals (January 16) and a final on January 23 next year.

                                          Playing rugby in South Africa in December/January... that's gotta be some hard-core shit, doesn't it?

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                                          @Kruse Our PRO14 sides played in that period the last few years. Games @ 19h00 is perfect for live TV coverage

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