Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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Really looking forward to this, and the series schedule lines up well for NZ if things go their way.
Pink ball tests are always a bit of a lottery, and if you avoid batting at dusk then you can generally score well. You'd think the toss would be pretty important.
Then to Melbourne which has been dead, flat and slow for years. Tough pitch to get a result.
So if NZ can get some luck in the first test then there's every chance you head to Sydney 1-0 up, and that test has been dogged by rain for the last ten years.
On our side of the equation, the Pakistan series came at a great time. Warner is now back in form, and Marnus is red hot. Smith has yet to fire a shot, which should worry the Kiwi bowlers. And our quicks are bowling as well as ever.
I'll tip an Australian win, but a tied series or a Kiwi win wouldn't shock me.
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'll tip an Australian win, but a tied series or a Kiwi win wouldn't shock me
we're no chance. I don't think we'll win a game. 2-0 to Australia
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@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Or NZ refs in NZ.
Off you go Nick. Start your list.
Don't start him or he will be regaling us with tales of how Pinetree set out with murderous intent from the day he crossed paths with Ken Catchpole.
Cricket and umpires was actually the list above, but thread diversions have happened before I think... He did say refs, so yes Ken may well be bought up although I don't believe it was a Kiwi ref?
Come on, you been around long enough. Have you not learned that thread diversions are the norm and you were inviting Nick to tee off on anything Oz/Kiwi related in a one eyed view of injustice.
@Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Or NZ refs in NZ.
Off you go Nick. Start your list.
Don't start him or he will be regaling us with tales of how Pinetree set out with murderous intent from the day he crossed paths with Ken Catchpole.
Cricket and umpires was actually the list above, but thread diversions have happened before I think... He did say refs, so yes Ken may well be bought up although I don't believe it was a Kiwi ref?
Come on, you been around long enough. Have you not learned that thread diversions are the norm and you were inviting Nick to tee off on anything Oz/Kiwi related in a one eyed view of injustice.
Yes, yes, I was.
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@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Or NZ refs in NZ.
Off you go Nick. Start your list.
Don't start him or he will be regaling us with tales of how Pinetree set out with murderous intent from the day he crossed paths with Ken Catchpole.
@Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Or NZ refs in NZ.
Off you go Nick. Start your list.
Don't start him or he will be regaling us with tales of how Pinetree set out with murderous intent from the day he crossed paths with Ken Catchpole.
Tell you what gents: you start your grudge list of bad South African refs and we'll see where we end up.
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@Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Come on, you been around long enough. Have you not learned that thread diversions are the norm and you were inviting Nick to
tee off on anything Oz/Kiwi related in a one eyed view of injustice.subtly remind you all to wind in your Slack Craps victim mentality a bit.Fixed.
To be perfectly honest, I'm shocked that the words "underarm" or "Chappell" haven't been mentioned at least three times.
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Come on, I don't think you could find one example of poor Aussie umpiring.
Well, except maybe this one:
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I think we will get absolutely smashed in the first test.
The we have a FC game v Victoria to fill in the gap before boxing day.
So by 2nd and 3rd test, I won't accept too many excuses.We will get beat, though.
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
We have good batting, but with Raval out of form, I'm now a bit worried about how deep we bat, with keeper at 6.
Not liking Taylor's front foot pulling and hooking I've seen in the England series, that won't last long over there. Also expect Santner's batting to struggle over there.
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I'll leave with this one, to prove you Kiwis aren't perfect either:
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OK well this one as well if you really want.
FWIW just go and look at Rob Moody's recent Twitter posts, I could go all day. Some all-time clangers there.
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
OK well this one as well if you really want.
FWIW just go and look at Rob Moody's recent Twitter posts, I could go all day. Some all-time clangers there.
Poor old Cairnsy. Couldn't buy a wicket.
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I think we will get absolutely smashed in the first test.
The we have a FC game v Victoria to fill in the gap before boxing day.
So by 2nd and 3rd test, I won't accept too many excuses.We will get beat, though.
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
We have good batting, but with Raval out of form, I'm now a bit worried about how deep we bat, with keeper at 6.
Not liking Taylor's front foot pulling and hooking I've seen in the England series, that won't last long over there. Also expect Santner's batting to struggle over there.
@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
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I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"
Also, Hair was a fucking cheat
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
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@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
Their bowling attack got chopped and changed a bit and they brought some fucking teenagers over for a throwaway series
Took 13 wickets out of a possible 40 and were bowled out twice because of it.
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I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"
Also, Hair was a fucking cheat
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
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In The Playing Mantis, Coney devotes a whole chapter to how bad this ODI in Multan was...
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I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"
Also, Hair was a fucking cheat
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
Honestly, the DRS is a huge improvement on that sort of decision making. It was horrific, and favoured 'big' teams and players.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
