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  • barbarianB barbarian

    @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....

    Australia now have a very settled 11.

    The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.

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    @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....

    Australia now have a very settled 11.

    The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.

    Their bowling attack got chopped and changed a bit and they brought some fucking teenagers over for a throwaway series

    Took 13 wickets out of a possible 40 and were bowled out twice because of it.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

      But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

      Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"

      Also, Hair was a fucking cheat

      Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.

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      @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

      But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

      I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

      I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

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        It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.

        French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

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          Colin Croft may have an opinion on Fred Goodall as well.

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            In The Playing Mantis, Coney devotes a whole chapter to how bad this ODI in Multan was...

            https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/16887/scorecard/64247/pakistan-vs-new-zealand-4th-odi-new-zealand-tour-of-pakistan-1984-85

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

              But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

              Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"

              Also, Hair was a fucking cheat

              Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.

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              @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.

              Honestly, the DRS is a huge improvement on that sort of decision making. It was horrific, and favoured 'big' teams and players.

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              • barbarianB barbarian

                @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

                But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

                I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

                I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

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                @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

                But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

                I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

                I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

                Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

                  But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

                  I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

                  I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

                  Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".

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                  @NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

                  But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

                  I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

                  I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

                  Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".

                  happened makes it sound like it was in the past.

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                    The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

                    The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

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                    • rotatedR rotated

                      The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

                      The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

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                      @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                      The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

                      The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

                      Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

                        The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

                        Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

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                        @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                        Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

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                        • barbarianB barbarian

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                          Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

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                          @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                          Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                          Are you questioning their outrage, bro?

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                            Reminded me of Brett "beamer" (sorry, it was an accident) Lee.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.

                              French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

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                              @Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                              **It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.
                              **
                              French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

                              Javed Miandad given out lbw eight times in Tests at home.

                              https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/20415890/curious-case-miandad-lbw-rates

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                                @Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                **It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.
                                **
                                French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

                                Javed Miandad given out lbw eight times in Tests at home.

                                https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/20415890/curious-case-miandad-lbw-rates

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                                @Number-10 Hyperbole. Seldom was more accurate but that article backs up my point.

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                                • barbarianB barbarian

                                  @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                  Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                  Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

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                                  @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                  @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                  Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                  Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                                  Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                                  Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

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                                    @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                    Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                                    Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                                    Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

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                                    @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                    Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                                    Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                                    Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                                    Yeah but he was a chucker?

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                                      @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                      Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                                      Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                                      Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                                      Yeah but he was a chucker?

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                                      @NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                      Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                                      Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                                      Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                                      Yeah but he was a chucker?

                                      he looked like a chucker

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                                        Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                                        Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                                        Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                                        Yeah but he was a chucker?

                                        he looked like a chucker

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                                        Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
                                        As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓

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                                        • barbarianB barbarian

                                          Maybe this one too

                                          https://twitter.com/robelinda2/status/1199814677372403712

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                                          @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                          Maybe this one too

                                          https://twitter.com/robelinda2/status/1199814677372403712

                                          The arrogance of the commentator...."clasp your helmet all you like son, but look in the paper tomorrow and you'll find you're out LBW"

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