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    Nevorian
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    Not a volcanologist but change from a category 1 to 2 in the last few weeks should have raised an alarm. I believe the eruption is mostly superheated water vapour but also other gases present would have affected breathing capabilities

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:

    I find people using this tragedy as an excuse to push the Maori name of the island incredibly distasteful

    They're only words. What harm can they possibly do?

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    @NTA said in BOP Eruption?:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:

    I find people using this tragedy as an excuse to push the Maori name of the island incredibly distasteful

    They're only words. What harm can they possibly do?

    Harm? None. Cause irritation. Yes.

    And I made it pretty clear I don't mind dual names, the timing is off though. My kids at school learn about White Island (legend and science), and schools LOVE dual names but even they never use it. Yet a tragedy occurs an suddenly now is the time? No

    I bet the school uses the dual name from now on though...

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:

    @NTA said in BOP Eruption?:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:

    I find people using this tragedy as an excuse to push the Maori name of the island incredibly distasteful

    They're only words. What harm can they possibly do?

    Harm? None. Cause irritation. Yes.

    Bah! Grumpy old man...

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:

    I find people using this tragedy as an excuse to push the Maori name of the island incredibly distasteful. I live in this area and never ever heard the Maori name from anyone in the public, news etc
    Quite happy enough for it have dual names, but for now to be the time they decide to start using it.. fuck ...off.

    I sort of get your point - the media know it is going to be a world wide news event for a few days or weeks so let’s show our political correctness to the world

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    The local Maori bought the White Island tour company a few years back, did they change the marketing and sign writing to dual name? Noooo because they know damn well everyone just knows it as White Island currently. That can change, but now suddenly after this?
    A few white liberals in the media see a tragedy and decide to enter some woke Olympics. What next a big Tsunami in Auckland? But we only hear Tamaki Makaurau Auckland and never just Auckland on the news suddenly starting on that day?

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:

    The local Maori bought the White Island tour company a few years back, did they change the marketing and sign writing to dual name? Noooo because they know damn well everyone just knows it as White Island currently. That can change, but now suddenly after this?
    A few white liberals in the media see a tragedy and decide to enter some woke Olympics. What next a big Tsunami in Auckland? But we only hear Tamaki Makaurau Auckland and never just Auckland on the news suddenly starting on that day?

    I feel your pain .They probably do it specifically to annoy you, the same way TVNZ deliberately put Anika Moa on the pre match coverage of the rwc to fuck me off .

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    They were briefly using the Maori and English names early yesterday morning here but have now resorted back to White Island.

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    Usage pre tragedy by all the major media outlets.

    Error 404
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113806588/volcanic-alert-level-raised-at-whakaari--white-island
    Stuff
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12237985
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113901851/volcanic-alert-level-lowered-at-whakaari--white-island
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12245489

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    A current affairs weblog I read over here includes a brief but accurate context:

    "Aussies are again calling for Jacinda Ardern to be the country’s leader after her “classy” response to the White Island volcano disaster."
    "Name them."
    "River, Tanisha, Beau, Bo, Corey, Cory, Skye, Sky and D’kara ..."

    A crowd of ostensibly mature and aware adults go wandering about a place where nature is very likely to fry them and, when it does, there is a mad scramble to drag out someone to blame for their stupidity. The First Lady, in her role as Minister for Lovely but Over-familiar, canters out for an exhibition run to paw and cuddle carefully selected random strangers. Instantly the fact of senior Labor officials having their way with junior Labor office girls falls back to page 12 of the NZ Herald and stays there.

    In 2019 "honorable" is defined by whatever one can get away with - this sheila is a quick learner alright.

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    @Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD the boot on the other footness of the victims families blaming the government for their loved ones deaths after 10 years of Pike river is some nice karma .

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    @jegga said in BOP Eruption?:

    I feel your pain .They probably do it specifically to annoy you, the same way TVNZ deliberately put Anika Moa on the pre match coverage of the rwc to fuck me off .

    Can confirm. Have strong sauce from the meeting where TVNZ made that call and name checked @jegga. It's legit.

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    @nzzp said in BOP Eruption?:

    @jegga said in BOP Eruption?:

    I feel your pain .They probably do it specifically to annoy you, the same way TVNZ deliberately put Anika Moa on the pre match coverage of the rwc to fuck me off .

    Can confirm. Have strong sauce from the meeting where TVNZ made that call and name checked @jegga. It's legit.

    I bloody knew it

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    Machpants
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    Instead of arguing about political bullshit - how about acknowledging these guys - bloody heroes

    Stephen D'Antal in Whakatane  /  Dec 10, 2019  /  World news

    New Zealand helicopter pilot describes horror of volcano rescue

    New Zealand helicopter pilot describes horror of volcano rescue

    ‘The burns were horrific … A lot of the people could not talk,’ says Mark Law

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    Donsteppa
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    Driving into Whakatane township earlier this morning I saw a couple of road signs with 'Gateway to Whakaari' on them.

    I didn't see this sign driving through Matata, but apparently it's happened once:

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    Interesting - about that helicopter out there:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/e8v31d/request_how_much_force_needed_to_shift_the/

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118103101/whakaariwhite-island-helicopter-pilot-said-conditions-perfect-to-recover-bodies

    Interesting when the boot is on the other foot aye? I know Stuart Nash says it's unfair to compare this situation to Pike River, but is it really? There is risk associated with a recovery mission but at least they can see whats in front of them. It's a bit harder to make broad sweeping statements about not leaving people behind when you have to wear your big boy pants

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    @canefan quite a few "probably's" in his comments. I get that he thinks he can do it and it'll be sweet. But what if it isn't? who gets shit canned then? Him? whoever approved him taking the risk?

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    Snowy
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    The pilots know the risks and will act accordingly.

    The politicians know how much about flying?

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    @Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:

    The pilots know the risks and will act accordingly.

    The politicians know how much about flying?

    As much as they are told by their expert advisors I suspect. Who should be pilots and shoukd know the risks.

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