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Chiefs 2020

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  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

    Just looking and the transfers in and out of all SR teams, can't belive the Chiefs passed up on the chance to nab new talent McClutchie from under the Canes noses. Instead we have plumped for broken warhorse Cruden, who spent most of last season in France on the sidellines, injured.

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    @Jailbreak7 UK? I agree he's often broken but Cruden played for Montpellier in France.

    The advantage of having Cruden in the team is that he can help with the development of the young 10s. Especially Falcon - who has been in the squad for a few years now (although injured) - must get enough game time though, preferably with several starts. If they don't focus on the development of the young first fives, they won't be any further the following season (2021), when Cruden is off to Japan.

    You're right that a NZ franchise (preferably the Canes) should have picked up McClutchie. Instead, he'll get his first start this weekend for Docomo Red Hurricanes in a preseason game in Japan. I'm still really annoyed about that.

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      @Jailbreak7 UK? I agree he's often broken but Cruden played for Montpellier in France.

      The advantage of having Cruden in the team is that he can help with the development of the young 10s. Especially Falcon - who has been in the squad for a few years now (although injured) - must get enough game time though, preferably with several starts. If they don't focus on the development of the young first fives, they won't be any further the following season (2021), when Cruden is off to Japan.

      You're right that a NZ franchise (preferably the Canes) should have picked up McClutchie. Instead, he'll get his first start this weekend for Docomo Red Hurricanes in a preseason game in Japan. I'm still really annoyed about that.

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      @Stargazer Hmm yes - guess there are always injuries, but I would really rather a NZ franchise selected him first hand (especially since his running mate Fakatava has been picked up) so we could get a better look at him. Cross fingers an Aus franchise doesn't come knocking.

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        Some of the newbies are in this photo.

        Chiefs.jpg

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          Rivez Reihana is training with the Chiefs. Good to have him in the system.

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            Chiefs version

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-teams-of-the-decade-the-chiefs-players-that-built-a-legacy

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              Chiefs version

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-teams-of-the-decade-the-chiefs-players-that-built-a-legacy

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              @Machpants pretty hard to disagree with any of that. Maybe Sona at loosehead.

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                @Machpants pretty hard to disagree with any of that. Maybe Sona at loosehead.

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                @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                @Machpants pretty hard to disagree with any of that. Maybe Sona at loosehead.

                Manu wasn't involved in 2012/13 so is he part of the best team of the decade? Definitely Sona.

                I also wouldn't have Leitch, although he did play well for the Chiefs. Move Messam to no.8 and include Latimer in the loosies.

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                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                  @Machpants pretty hard to disagree with any of that. Maybe Sona at loosehead.

                  Manu wasn't involved in 2012/13 so is he part of the best team of the decade? Definitely Sona.

                  I also wouldn't have Leitch, although he did play well for the Chiefs. Move Messam to no.8 and include Latimer in the loosies.

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                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2020:

                  Move Messam to no.8 and include Latimer in the loosies.

                  my man!

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                    I love Lats, but he and Cane always shared the 7 jersey, so it's a bit hard to move them around like that.

                    Messam almost always played 6 in big games too:

                    https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/2012-super-rugby-semi-final-preview-crusaders-v-chiefs/
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Super_Rugby_Final
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Super_Rugby_Final

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                      I love Lats, but he and Cane always shared the 7 jersey, so it's a bit hard to move them around like that.

                      Messam almost always played 6 in big games too:

                      https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/2012-super-rugby-semi-final-preview-crusaders-v-chiefs/
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Super_Rugby_Final
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Super_Rugby_Final

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                      @gt12 I had looked at the team lists for both finals too. Messam did move to no.8 against the Brumbies and scored from the 5 m scrum.

                      There really isn't a standout Chiefs no.8 that played over multiple seasons in this decade.

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                        Ben Afeaki was a better player than Ben Tameifuna IMO. It's a shame he had to withdraw from rugby because of concussion.

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                          https://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/3308806315861352/

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                            When will Nathan Harris be available?

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                              https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/gallagher-chiefs-welcome-replacement-players-from-chiefs-regions?fbclid=IwAR0_KpbEun5CrQRPDN5sKUf_mMfGFpWQA_KAdZa4BT4W-EnCWx4Hz-7YrcI

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                                "This group of young men" : this doesn't apply to Geldenhuys, IMO.

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                                    @Ruggy didn't you post this already?

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                                      Yeahtheboys
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                                      U missed Luke Jacobson from the starting team cuz. Not even Colin Cooper was dumb enough to not start him. Also Laulala is a tight head not a loose head

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                                        You also said set piece is our strength with “2 tall timber locks” ummmmm we haven’t had one of those apart from Retallick... we usually play 5 loosies + the outside backs imo aren’t our strength it’s our loosies

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                                          Tipping Blues to win the conference and Crusaders to be 4th? You’re joking right

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