Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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<p>Looks like the critics like it</p>
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<p>They liked the phantom menace as well, all the initial reviews were good. Same goes for Avatar and Titanic movies that are basically unwatchable these days.</p>
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<p>I think these types of blockbuster have to sit with people for a while before they are properly evaluated. Opens here tonight in Paris, will go when the mania calms down a bit though as there is a lack of baby sitters around at the moment due to xmas party season.</p>
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<p><strong>They liked the phantom menace as well, all the initial reviews were good. </strong>Same goes for Avatar and Titanic movies that are basically unwatchable these days.</p>
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<p>I think these types of blockbuster have to sit with people for a while before they are properly evaluated. Opens here tonight in Paris, will go when the mania calms down a bit though as there is a dirt of baby sitters around at the moment due to xmas party season.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I think that the Herald and the Guardian gave it five stars.</p> -
<p>Big difference between reviews for <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-i---the-phantom-menace'>The Phantom Menace</a> and <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii---the-force-awakens'>The Force Awakens</a></p>
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<p>Difficult to measure what the ratings would have been during opening week, unless you go back through archive.org and check the sites.</p>
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<p>They liked the phantom menace as well, all the initial reviews were good. Same goes for Avatar and Titanic movies that are basically unwatchable these days.</p>
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<p>and on the flip side, the very first Star Wars movie got some terrible reviews on release.</p> -
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<p>and on the flip side, the very first Star Wars movie got some terrible reviews on release.</p>
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<p>Wasn't that ESB? ESB wasn't well received initially because it had no proper ending. It was just a bunch of plot.</p> -
<p>I guess to be fair there were quite a few good reviews in '77 as well.</p>
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<p>But then, remember that some of them were also after critics had noticed audience reactions and people walking straight to the ticket office after the movie so they could see it again.</p>
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<p>When Star Wars came out in 1977, nobody knew it would become the classic that we all recognize today. Some people were skeptical, for sure. But few reviewers were as hilariously savage as John Simon, with New York Magazine, who called it "a set of giant baubles manipulated by an infant mind."</p>
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<p>Here are some choice passages from Simon's review, which you can read over at Google Books:</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that science and scientists differ from science fiction and its practitioners. Heaven help us if they don't: We may be headed for a very boring world indeed. Strip Star Wars of its often striking images and its high-falutin scientific jargon, and you get a story, characters, and dialogue of overwhelming banality, without even a "future" cast to them. Human beings, anthropoids, or robots, you could probably find them all, more or less like, that, in downtown Los Angeles today...</p>
<p>O dull new world! We are treated to a galactic civil war, assorted heroes and villains, a princely maiden in distress, a splendid old man surviving from an extinct order of knights who possessed a mysterious power called "the Force," and it is all as exciting as last year's weather reports.... Why, even the most exciting fight is an old-fashioned duel, for all that the swords have laser beams for blades....</p>
<p>Here it is all trite characterization and paltry verbiage... The one exception is Alec Guinness as the grand old man Ben Kenobi (Ben for the Hebrew ben, to make him sound Biblical and good; Kenobi probably from cannibis, i.e., hashish, for reasons you can probably guess.)...</p>
<p>Still, Star Wars will do very nicely for those lucky enough to be children or unlucky enough never to have grown up.<br>
Ouch.</p>
<p>Also found on Google Books: a 1983 article from Texas Monthly, which takes issue with a May 23, 1983 Time Magazine cover story about Return of the Jedi. Apparently, Time insisted that Return of the Jedi "represents a return to striding form after the lunging missteps of The Empire Strikes Back." (The actual Time Magazine article isn't online, and I haven't had time to look for it in the library.)</p>
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<p>Used to be a big fan of star wars but havent really got in to it as an adult.</p>
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<p>My kids got some star wars lego etc and is keen see the new movie but I suspect its better if he watches the earlier ones first.</p>
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<p>What's the correct watching order now?</p>
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<p>Our renos are almost complete so will be go the give the new home theater setup a good breaking in.</p> -
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<p>Used to be a big fan of star wars but havent really got in to it as an adult.</p>
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<p>My kids got some star wars lego etc and is keen see the new movie but I suspect its better if he watches the earlier ones first.</p>
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<p>What's the correct watching order now?</p>
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<p>Our renos are almost complete so will be go the give the new home theater setup a good breaking in.</p>
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<p>Suggested order I think is watch 4, 5 and then 1, 2, 3 and then 6. That way you still get the reveal from the ESB and the redemption from Jedi is even better having seen the prequels.</p> -
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<p>Suggested order I think is watch 4, 5 and then 1, 2, 3 and then 6. That way you still get the reveal from the ESB and the redemption from Jedi is even better having seen the prequels.</p>
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<p>Or the Machete order <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/'>http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/</a></p> -
It was way more than a cameo! I did find his kids a little annoying...
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<p>This might be a thread to stay away from till one sees the movie then?</p>
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<p>Yup unless you want to hear about the return of mace Windu as well</p> -
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<p>Yup unless you want to hear about the return of mace Windu as well</p>
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<p>I have no idea what that means Virg, but good answer :)</p> -
<p>Really enjoyed it, a big improvement on the prequels.</p>
<p>Without going too in depth and spoiling it for others (no idea how to use the spoiler tags) Only slight nick picking would be the rehash of Episode IV's plot.</p>
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<p>oh and its easy to see why luke was missing was the bulk of the promo material.</p>
