Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@canefan And you've timed it badly too. If this series was last year then it may have been a very different result.
But against a settled team, with a fit Cummins and a new emerging talent in Marnus... it's a very different story.
Yep no doubt we missed out when the Aus side was depleted. But shit I expected a hell of a lot better. Kane has choked on the big stage, Ross has been OK but again not nearly enough runs. And our other supporting cast who have been fucking excellent the last 2 - 3 years haven't come to play at all.
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@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@kev said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Rapido looking at this now (hindsight) the preparation of this team hasn’t been right to deal with the challenges - Coaches and Selectors will need to think about this for next time. The batsmen have all struggled with the bounce (more than the speed though they are additive ). And don’t know what they are doing with our spinners - getting a bit complicated? They have selected Ajaz and Sommerville for sub continent, but revert to Santner and Astle for this tour.
What the fark is that about? They can't use the "horses for courses" chestnut because Sommerville has played a lot of Sheffield Shield cricket for NSW so knows the players and the conditions. It is mystifying
Basically, I don't think Kane backs his spinner to lead the attack. In some ways Wagner does the spinner role. He bowls heaps of overs with the older ball and can tie down an end. I don't think a spinner who bowls a lot of overs fits into that plan. Somerville and Ajaz just aren't good enough with the bat. So Astle/Santner are basically competing for one spot.
When we go to the sub continent, the spinners are going to bowl all day so don't need to bat to justify their spot.
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BTW, Kane has failed in three innings sure. Kane is not a choker though. He has stood up on plenty of occasions and got big runs. He got two big centuries on the last tour of Australia. He has come up against a good bowling attack - it just doesn't help that everyone seems to have failed all at once.
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Aus will bat again to give their bowlers a break.
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@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 if Santner can't tie up an end with the ball, he's a specialist batsman at 8. Why are we picking him at 8 instead of finding a middle order batsman who can roll the arm over?
Yep, Raval would have been a better option at number eight. He'd bat alright there and at least can actually spin a cricket ball FFS
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@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 if Santner can't tie up an end with the ball, he's a specialist batsman at 8. Why are we picking him at 8 instead of finding a middle order batsman who can roll the arm over?
I don't think there really is such a player domestically. Our spin bowling batting all-rounders is probably limited to George Worker unless I am forgetting someone obvious. Santner does have a career economy rate of 2.75 in tests so it's not like he is regularly getting pasted.
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Roll them for 50 odd and chase down 360 for a famous win,
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The Kiwi batting has been pretty shithouse though. I've been pretty disappointed with Kane especially. Not sure the 'big 3' really exists anymore. It's Smith and Kohli and then a big gap to the rest at the moment.
Mind you - at the CWC you would have said the Big 2 were Williamson and Kohli and even Virat was resting on his laurels a bit.
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@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 if Santner can't tie up an end with the ball, he's a specialist batsman at 8. Why are we picking him at 8 instead of finding a middle order batsman who can roll the arm over?
Yep, Raval would have been a better option at number eight. He'd bat alright there and at least can actually spin a cricket ball FFS
The reverse Mark Richardson!
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God fucking Erasmus never ever calls it our way.
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Piss off the bat is behind the pad.
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All out for a 20/20 score in a test. That's just embarrassing. Apart from Latham, who at least stuck around for a while, the rest were shithouse.
It is so galling, that on this big stage, great venue we haven't been awarded in so long, we perform like a bunch of muppets. I'm so gutted at this. Strongest side we've sent in ages, and Aussie are having a field day because our senior players have forgotten how to hold a bat and/or occupy the crease.
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@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
apparently domestic cricket isn't developing test quality openers
We've always struggled there.
In my time - Latham, Richardson, Wright, Edgar, maybe a couple of others are about it. Did Turner open in tests? I didn't see much of him.
