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Cricket: NZ vs Aus

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    One positive is we haven't let Warner cash in.

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      I'd definitely take Neesham over Santner, seems like Santner is being picked to bat and Neesham is much better than him at that discipline.

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        Commentators speculating on declaration tonight - but, I can't see it. If they had any intention of us batting today, surely they'd have just enforced the follow-on.

        I reckon they'll bat on for an hour tomorrow to completely bat us out of the game. Lead by 550 - bat Burns into some form - wear our bowlers down - and still leave themselves still five and a half sessions to bowl us out.

        Given a short turnaround - I wonder whether we'll leave Timmy out of the third test. He looks the most knackered of our bowlers.

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          @hydro11 Sommerville is good with the bat.

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          @kev said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

          @hydro11 Sommerville is good with the bat.

          Santner's FC average is 30, Someville averages 18. Somerville is 35 and has never hit a FC 50 (although he does have one good innings for NZ). Not in the same class as Santner and not really good enough to bat 8.

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            @Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @hydro11 if Santner can't tie up an end with the ball, he's a specialist batsman at 8. Why are we picking him at 8 instead of finding a middle order batsman who can roll the arm over?

            I don't think there really is such a player domestically. Our spin bowling batting all-rounders is probably limited to George Worker unless I am forgetting someone obvious. Santner does have a career economy rate of 2.75 in tests so it's not like he is regularly getting pasted.

            Doesn't have to be a spinner - if Santner's not taking wickets, it can be anything.

            Jimmy Neesham?

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            @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            @hydro11 if Santner can't tie up an end with the ball, he's a specialist batsman at 8. Why are we picking him at 8 instead of finding a middle order batsman who can roll the arm over?

            I don't think there really is such a player domestically. Our spin bowling batting all-rounders is probably limited to George Worker unless I am forgetting someone obvious. Santner does have a career economy rate of 2.75 in tests so it's not like he is regularly getting pasted.

            Doesn't have to be a spinner - if Santner's not taking wickets, it can be anything.

            Jimmy Neesham?

            But his economy rate is 3.47 domestically. He isn't a 5th seamer in that he is a guy to toss the ball to just to bowl overs. Neesham is better with the newer ball. Anderson would be a better 5th seamer.

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              @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              Still lots of gaps in the Aussie team though. Wade, Head and then Paine is a weak 5, 6, 7 (especially in foreign conditions).

              That's what I thought. But I'd take their production from our 5 6 7.

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              @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              Still lots of gaps in the Aussie team though. Wade, Head and then Paine is a weak 5, 6, 7 (especially in foreign conditions).

              That's what I thought. But I'd take their production from our 5 6 7.

              You would take their production in this game against our attack. You wouldn't have taken their record over the last 2 years. I wonder how those three would have gone against their attack?

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                Left arm slow gets a wicket!!!

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                  @kev said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  @hydro11 Sommerville is good with the bat.

                  Santner's FC average is 30, Someville averages 18. Somerville is 35 and has never hit a FC 50 (although he does have one good innings for NZ). Not in the same class as Santner and not really good enough to bat 8.

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                  @hydro11 But no 8 needs to bowl. Especially in our team.

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                    @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                    @Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                    @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                    @Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                    @hydro11 if Santner can't tie up an end with the ball, he's a specialist batsman at 8. Why are we picking him at 8 instead of finding a middle order batsman who can roll the arm over?

                    I don't think there really is such a player domestically. Our spin bowling batting all-rounders is probably limited to George Worker unless I am forgetting someone obvious. Santner does have a career economy rate of 2.75 in tests so it's not like he is regularly getting pasted.

                    Doesn't have to be a spinner - if Santner's not taking wickets, it can be anything.

                    Jimmy Neesham?

                    But his economy rate is 3.47 domestically. He isn't a 5th seamer in that he is a guy to toss the ball to just to bowl overs. Neesham is better with the newer ball. Anderson would be a better 5th seamer.

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                    @hydro11 Corey Anderson?

                    I don't think he's bowling anymore and seems only to be playing short forms.

                    The Aussies have lost 9 for 143. πŸ™‚

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                      Wagner has certainly fronted on this tour.

                      Steve Smith = Wagner's Bunny

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        Wagner has certainly fronted on this tour.

                        Steve Smith = Wagner's Bunny

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                        @Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        Wagner has certainly fronted on this tour.

                        Steve Smith = Wagner's Bunny

                        That's remarkable by itself. What a bowler

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                          TBH, how hard the bowlers are fighting just makes me even more pissed at the batsmen.

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                            TBH, how hard the bowlers are fighting just makes me even more pissed at the batsmen.

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                            @Mokey the bowlers have bowled with one short in the first test, without a spinning option, backed up from some short batting innings. Big effort. They lack the strike power of the Aussies but have bowled to their plans well.

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                              @Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                              Wagner has certainly fronted on this tour.

                              Steve Smith = Wagner's Bunny

                              That's remarkable by itself. What a bowler

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                              @nzzp said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                              @Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                              Wagner has certainly fronted on this tour.

                              Steve Smith = Wagner's Bunny

                              That's remarkable by itself. What a bowler

                              He's earned rave reviews. The only bright spot

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                                booboo
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                                Broken hand for Boult. 😞

                                Heading home after the test. Still bowling this arvo though.

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                                  Rapido
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                                  To think, they've kept Bradman II quiet and are still going to get the 2 biggest consecutive hidings in our history.

                                  What a waste.

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                                    TeWaio
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                                    If our batsmen got to face our bowlers we'd score 400+ easily.

                                    Similarly if the Aussie batsmen had to face their bowlers they'd probably be rolled for under 200.

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                                      Assistant Jordie Barrett was out easily too

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        Broken hand for Boult. 😞

                                        Heading home after the test. Still bowling this arvo though.

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                                        @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        Broken hand for Boult. 😞

                                        Heading home after the test. Still bowling this arvo though.

                                        Hopefully they take the opportunity to fly over Sommerville.

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                                          canefan
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                                          Neil Wagner should be one of the first names on the BCs team sheet in as many forms of the game as he wishes. That is all

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