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@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt no love for your fellow animals?
None for man eating fish.
Lots of things can kill you.
Odds of getting killed in a shark attack, less than 1 in 264 million
I’d be more concerned about our fellow man. You are more likely to get run over, die in a plane crash or get shot and killed than end up dying like a Jaws extra
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt no love for your fellow animals?
None for man eating fish.
Lots of things can kill you.
Odds of getting killed in a shark attack, less than 1 in 264 million
I’d be more concerned about our fellow man. You are more likely to get run over, die in a plane crash or get shot and killed than end up dying like a Jaws extra
On the other hand most man v man encounters result in no harm either way, whereas most man v shark encounters have different odds.
So fuck 'em.
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt no love for your fellow animals?
None for man eating fish.
Lots of things can kill you.
Odds of getting killed in a shark attack, less than 1 in 264 million
I’d be more concerned about our fellow man. You are more likely to get run over, die in a plane crash or get shot and killed than end up dying like a Jaws extra
I don't think those stats are accurate, I'm sure theres probably dozens if not hundreds that happen in remote parts of the world that go unreported and if someone is listed as missing presumed drowned and the body is never recovered we'll never know what happened .
The chances are that shark was pretty fucked, to swim into the shallows like that and get beached is highly unusual and it would have been better to let nature take its course.
This shark was found to have a bunch of stingray barbs in it when it was autopsied , because it was so ill it cruised into the shallows for an easy meal and clamped on a kids leg. It was so fucked that it didn't let go of the kid and surf livesavers had to carried the kid and the shark up the beach and beat the shit out of the shark with surfboards to make it let go.
Coledale shark attack: the boy who survived
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Coledale shark attack: the boy who survived
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My brother in law worked for a wildlife charity after he retired, he was one of those people that thought that sharks don't really mean to attack people and its usually a case of mistaken identity which I'm sure is very comforting for anyone being chomped on. He even tried to get youtube to relabel shark attack videos as shark incidents. Eric Ritter was another sharks don't want to eat people arseclown, that worked out well for him.
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@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
The same beach was shut on Christmas Day after reports of a 2 metre-long shark 500 metres off shore, and again two days later after the police helicopter spotted a 2-3 metre-long beast lurking around 200-300 metres out, with another further out.
"It was a good moment when the crowed cheered as they managed to refloat the shark," one onlooker told Stuff.
Shark expert and Department of Conservation marine scientist Clinton Duffy confirmed it was a 2.75 metre female.
"The general rule of thumb is from 2.8 - 3 metres is when they become the most danger to humans because they feed on marine mammals then."
People are weird.
Where's @Fullermorg ?
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@booboo said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
The same beach was shut on Christmas Day after reports of a 2 metre-long shark 500 metres off shore, and again two days later after the police helicopter spotted a 2-3 metre-long beast lurking around 200-300 metres out, with another further out.
"It was a good moment when the crowed cheered as they managed to refloat the shark," one onlooker told Stuff.
Shark expert and Department of Conservation marine scientist Clinton Duffy confirmed it was a 2.75 metre female.
"The general rule of thumb is from 2.8 - 3 metres is when they become the most danger to humans because they feed on marine mammals then."
People are weird.
Where's @Fullermorg ?
Haha, that was my first thought too.
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@jegga NZ Orca feast on Stingrays, there was a big pod in Whangaruru Harbour yesterday, assuming it's the same pod, were in Whangarei Harbour on NY day.
Plenty of Ray's in there.
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@taniwharugby Yeah that pod has been hanging around the Gulf for a couple of weeks. One of them got caught up and they were asking people to take photos / videos to identify it and make sure that it is O.K.
Orca are on my cool animal list. Really rare for them to attack humans in the wild and the captive ones are justifiably fucked in the head and angry. The most danger in the wild is that you get a whack from them by accident.
We have had them come into the estuary in front of us chasing Orca biscuits (rays) and there is a local guy (who I have seen speak) goes swimming / diving with them and filming when they are around.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ Orca feast on Stingrays, there was a big pod in Whangaruru Harbour yesterday, assuming it's the same pod, were in Whangarei Harbour on NY day.
Plenty of Ray's in there.
They occasionally hit them in the lagoon by my house too, it’s full of rays - I saw three on the surface earlier this week. There was some great footage of mature orca teaching young orcas on tv last year .
Looks like the shark was caught in a net then attacked by ferals .
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@Snowy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby Yeah that pod has been hanging around the Gulf for a couple of weeks. One of them got caught up and they were asking people to take photos / videos to identify it and make sure that it is O.K.
Orca are on my cool animal list. Really rare for them to attack humans in the wild and the captive ones are justifiably fucked in the head and angry. The most danger in the wild is that you get a whack from them by accident.
We have had them come into the estuary in front of us chasing Orca biscuits (rays) and there is a local guy (who I have seen speak) goes swimming / diving with them and filming when they are around.
I think nz orcas are the only ones to target rays .
They seem pretty specific about what they eat , in the Pacific Northwest there’s salmon eating pods and seal eating pods . The salmon eaters are starving due to low salmon numbers and they won’t eat seals despite the smelly fluffybunnies being one of the reasons the salmon numbers are low. -
@jegga Yeah their diets are regional, as are their hunting methods. They are bloody clever and develop techniques to catch the chosen meal. Those who don't like sharks can add Orca to their cool list.
Orcas eat great white sharks—new insights into rare behavior revealed
Though the great white is considered the top marine predator, orcas may actually rule the oceans, new observations suggest.
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This bit is a little Hannibal Lecter. Fava beans and Chianti with that Keiko (Willy)?
*"When the white shark carcasses washed ashore in 2017, Kock and colleagues suspected the orca duo was to blame. They performed CSI-style necropsies on the bodies, which were intact, save for an impressively neat tear between the two pectoral fins. Apparently the orcas knew exactly where the liver was located, and sucked the organ out of the open wound. (Watch a video of killer whales attacking a blue whale.)
Similarities between the white shark and sevengill carcasses led Kock and colleagues to believe the two orcas were also responsible for their deaths. Also, amateur video footage from the 1997 California attack suggested that the South African orcas also may have similarly worked together to take down the white sharks.
“It’s fascinating that these two whales seemed to have kind of honed this to perfection where it’s almost a scientific extraction of the liver,” Schulman-Janiger says—“like an operation with a scalpel.”
It was “a great opportunity to study it in detail and particularly being able to follow up with carcasses, which we were never able to do” in California, Schulman-Janiger adds.
It’s likely that orcas target shark livers because they’re high-fat and delicious. “People do the same thing [with] butter, bacon."*
Hmmm, bacon...
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@Snowy yea they are very 'tribal' supposedly with unique languages/dialect for regions, similarly their feeding habits.
Parts of Canada they feed on Porpoises, the ones in south Georgia beach themselves for seals etc (the NZ ones on Rays)
When I went to the poor Knights last year we saw a huge pod, the bull was MASSIVE.
Video file be too big to upload into here.
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Orca and Snow Leopards are top of my cool animal list.
Polar Beers too. Mainly because i won't be anywhere near a polar bear pretty much ever.
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Interesting "fact" I once read was that of all the animals on earth, only two instantly recognise humans as food; crocodiles and polar bears.
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@mariner4life did you see the recent Attenborough series? Those fuckers are genius too.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Interesting "fact" I once read was that of all the animals on earth, only two instantly recognise humans as food; crocodiles and polar bears.
Clear was my isp for six years and their " interesting fact of the day "on their homepage was that polar bears are black under their fur and they had that up for the entire six years .
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Four years after he stepped down Key still consumes some left wing weirdos
Bunch of clowns: Morgan Godfery on the unfunny jesters who rule the world
For Trump, Johnson, Morrison et al, the jokester act provides the perfect political cover, writes Morgan Godfery.
Shark attack - Wikipedia
