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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    ban the box kick!!

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    #331

    @mariner4life also once your hands are on the ball, it is out (like it used to be) not hands on, roll it back, re-position to make a pass easier, then holding it on the deck for what seems an age, then passing/kicking...

    I expect if the 5 second rule was enforced properly, ref calls ball available, 9 knows he has 5 sec to use it - be it kick or pass, then the is less Faffing about at the back, directing the forwards, moving the ball into a better position and angle

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    Just penalise twats standing as pillars with a finger on the 'ruck', don't allow players to join once the ball is available (i.e. creating a 'snake') and once the halfback has touched the ball they can't reposition it.
    All actions should be penalised by strapping tape over the halfback's mouth.

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    The halfback rolling the ball back and just waiting is probably my most hated thing about rugby at the moment. TBH, I hadn't seen it before the Lions tour.

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    Refs not pretending the ball is still in the ruck after the halfback has rolled it half a metre away would help too.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    ban halfbacks!!!

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by taniwharugby
    #336

    @Stargazer newbie Welsh prop Willgriff John played about 15 or so games for Northland around 2014/2015...

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    #337

    Is this guy or his brother ever fit?

    And yet they always look like supreme athletes...

    Jan 19, 2020  /  02:29

    Billy Vunipola: England No 8 could miss entire Six Nations with suspected broken arm

    Billy Vunipola: England No 8 could miss entire Six Nations with suspected broken arm

    Saracens star will be notable absentee when Eddie Jones names England squad on Monday

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    Jacob Umaga

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    alt text

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    @taniwharugby said in NH International Rugby:

    @mariner4life also once your hands are on the ball, it is out (like it used to be) not hands on, roll it back, re-position to make a pass easier, then holding it on the deck for what seems an age, then passing/kicking...

    I expect if the 5 second rule was enforced properly, ref calls ball available, 9 knows he has 5 sec to use it - be it kick or pass, then the is less Faffing about at the back, directing the forwards, moving the ball into a better position and angle

    Liked for bringing a verb into use. Faffing: To extend the game of rugby longer than 85 minutes by continued inaction at the ruck.

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    @Stargazer said in NH International Rugby:

    Jacob Umaga

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    What's your point? Within the rules, his uncle and father played for different countries, he represented England at under 18 and under 20.

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    @Catogrande Wow, defensive much? If you weren't on the other side of the equator, I'd think you got up at the wrong side of the bed this morning ...

    I only mentioned his names because I noticed the young lads name for the first time. That's all.

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  • ToddyT Offline
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    @Catogrande it's bullsh!t and you know it. It's clearly a massive poach and poor ole Jacob should be representing his country of birth... Tokoroa.

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    the ongoing and cynical exploitation of the South Sea islands by money bags northern unions is nothing short of a disgrace

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    We're starting to see the real reason Queen Victoria extended her domain...

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    Has Jacob Umaga’s tackling improved? He was incredibly weak in defence for Auckland. He did not appear to be making any effort.

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    From Ruck.co.uk. For some reason England stats are missing from this article. I never knew that French wing Virimi Vakatawa was Kiwi born.

    Foreign-Born Players at 2020 Six Nations:
    IRELAND – 7 (0% change)
    Seven of Ireland’s roster are foreign-born. Of them two gained eligibility after arriving as adults on professional rugby contracts – CJ Stander, and Bundee Aki. Stander captained the Baby Boks while Billy Burns and Will Addison both played for England U20’s.

    Rob Herring – Hooker – Cape Town, South Africa – Grandparent
    Ultan Dillane – Lock – Paris, France – Parent
    CJ Stander – No.8 – George, South Africa, Residency (2016)
    Luke McGrath – Scrum-half – Ontario, Canada – Parent
    Billy Burns – Fly-half – Bath, England – Grandparent
    Bundee Aki – Centre – Auckland, New Zealand – Residency (2017)
    Will Addison – Fullback – Penrith, England – Paren

    FRANCE – 4 (+33%)
    With four foreign-born players France has the lowest of the rosters named from the Six Nations unions. France also has a different requirement as in order to play for Les Bleus players must carry a French passport.

    Bernard le Roux – Lock – Western Cape, South Africa – Residency (2013)
    Paul Willemse – Lock – South Africa – Residency (2018)
    Virimi Vakatawa – Winger/Centre – Rangiora, New Zealand – Residency (2013)
    Gabriel N’Gandebe – Winger – Douala, Cameroon

    WALES – 11 (+22%)
    WillGriff John – Prop – Plymouth, England – Parent
    Jake Ball – Lock – Ascot, England – Parent
    Will Rowlands – Lock – London, England
    Aaron Shingler – Flanker – Aldershot, England – Residency (1992)
    Taulupe Faletau – No.8 – Tofoa, Tonga – Residency (2001)
    Ross Moriarty – Flanker – Liverpool, England – Parent
    Hadleigh Parkes – Centre – Hunterville, New Zealand – Residency (2017)
    Nick Tompkins – Centre – Sidcup, England – Grandparent
    Johnny McNicholl – Wing – Christchurch, New Zealand – Residency (2019)
    George North – Wing – Kings Lynn, England – Parent
    Jonah Holmes – Fullback – Stockport, England – Grandparent

    ITALY – 8 (-11%)
    Dean Budd – Lock – Whangarei, New Zealand – Residency (2015)
    David Sisi – Lock – Rinteln, Germany British Military Hospital – Parent
    Johan Meyer – Flanker – Port Elizabeth, South Africa – Residency (2018)
    Sebastien Negri – Flanker – Marondera, Zimbabwe – Parent
    Jake Polledri – Flanker – Bristol, England – Parent
    Braam Steyn – Flanker – South Africa – Residency (2015)
    Callum Braley – Scrum-half – Bristol, England – Grandparent
    Jayden Hayward – Fullback – New Zealand – Residency (2017

    SCOTLAND – 16 (-16%)
    Despite a decrease from the 2019 tournament, Gregor Townsend’s roster still contains more than any other competitor in the Six Nations. Of note is that that over half of the Foreign-Born players qualify via a Grandparent. This very qualification path may not survive should World Rugby adopt additional tightening of eligibility laws.

    Simon Berghan – Prop – Christchurch, New Zealand – Grandparent
    Allan Dell – Prop – Humansdorp, South Africa -Grandparent
    W.P. Nel – Prop – Loeriesfontein, South Africa – Residency (2015)
    Ben Toolis – Lock – Brisbane, Australia – Parent
    Cornell du Preez – No.8 – Port Elizabeth, South Africa – Residency (2017)
    Thomas Gordon – Flanker – Rotorua, New Zealand – Grandparents
    Nick Haining – Number 8 – Fremantle, Australia – Grandparent
    Hamish Watson – Flanker – Manchester, England – Grandparent
    Ali Price – Scrum-half – King Lynn, England – Parent
    Henry Pygros – Scrum-half – Dorset, England – Parent
    Chris Harris – Centre – Carlisle, England – Grandparent
    Sam Johnson – Centre, Dysart, Australia – Residency (2018)
    Sean Maitland – Winger – Tokoroa, New Zealand – Grandparent
    Kyle Steyn – Winger – Johannesburg, South Africa – Parent
    Ratu Tagive – Winger – Sydney, Australia
    Byron McGuigan – Winger – Namibia – Parent

    Edit - England stats now added.
    ENGLAND 4 (-50%)
    Eddie Jones’ foreign-born players is halved compared to a year ago. It would likely of been higher if Joe Cokanasiga and Billy Vunipola had been available. Ben Te’o is not longer available while Brad Shields and Jack Clifford aren’t currently even contention.

    Mako Vunipola – Prop – Wellington, New Zealand – Residency (2008)
    Sam Underhill – Flanker – USA – Parent
    Manu Tuilagi – Centre – Samoa – Residency (2007)
    Willie Heinz – Scrum-half – Christchurch, New Zealand – Grandparent

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Ruck's stats are typical stats - lies, damm lies, abd statistics.

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    #348

    @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Ruck's stats are typical stats - lies, damm lies, abd statistics.

    So they're not lies, or damn lies, but facts. Not 'alternative facts' but truth. Obviously ranting without basis is what people want today! Edit: Or maybe it's a conspiracy hiding all England's dirty foreigners!

    " Of note is that that over half of the Foreign-Born players qualify via a Grandparent. This very qualification path may not survive should World Rugby adopt additional tightening of eligibility laws." If that's true, Samoa and Tonga are in trouble, unless NZR, AR etc can convince certain Nations that playing for a tier 2 country after already playing for a tier 1 should be allowed

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  • boobooB Offline
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    #349

    I kind of get Mike's point.

    A Welshman born in England is kind of understandable. I mean it could be only a mile or three over the border.

    Some poaches are more egregious than others.

    But to rate them is subjective.

    Listing players born in another country is objective, but may lack context.

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