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Things that annoy you about rugby...

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

    Do your talking on the pitch.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

    Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

    Do your talking on the pitch.

    I'll add half time interviews, pointless sound bites

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

      Do your talking on the pitch.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

      Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

      Do your talking on the pitch.

      Eddie Jones would have been quicker to type

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      • M Machpants

        @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

        Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

        Do your talking on the pitch.

        I'll add half time interviews, pointless sound bites

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        @Machpants @Victor-Meldrew I think coaches wouldn't mind ditching those pre-match and half time interviews, or those stupid interviews during the game. I'm not sure what they did do to deserve being called dickhead coaches. They're answering questions asked by the interviewer. What else are they supposed to say?

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          The Blues....

          But a less obvious one would be how long teams are allowed to have maul set up before they have to use it if they aren't going forward. They are allowed to stop twice and refs generally allow them ages before they call each of those 2 "stops". It should either be 1 stop and use it or the refs need to be a lot harsher/quicker on what they determine is a maul 'stopped'. Mauls are way too advantageous for the attacking team.

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          @KiwiMurph said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

          The Blues....

          But a less obvious one would be how long teams are allowed to have maul set up before they have to use it if they aren't going forward. They are allowed to stop twice and refs generally allow them ages before they call each of those 2 "stops". It should either be 1 stop and use it or the refs need to be a lot harsher/quicker on what they determine is a maul 'stopped'. Mauls are way too advantageous for the attacking team.

          Agree with this. I would add that a maul going backwards should be deemed to have stopped.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

            Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

            Do your talking on the pitch.

            Eddie Jones would have been quicker to type

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            @Crucial said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

            Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

            Do your talking on the pitch.

            Eddie Jones would have been quicker to type

            Not just Jones, Crucial, though he's the loudest current exponent.

            This this sort of fluffybunny-ness has been getting worse for a decade or more

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @Crucial said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

              Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

              Do your talking on the pitch.

              Eddie Jones would have been quicker to type

              Not just Jones, Crucial, though he's the loudest current exponent.

              This this sort of fluffybunny-ness has been getting worse for a decade or more

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

              @Crucial said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

              Dickhead coaches and managers who keep telling us, pre-match, how they're going to smash the opposition and physically annihilate them.

              Do your talking on the pitch.

              Eddie Jones would have been quicker to type

              Not just Jones, Crucial, though he's the loudest current exponent.

              This this sort of fluffybunny-ness has been getting worse for a decade or more

              Examples? I can only go by games that I follow closely enough to listen to pre match comments by coaches or those that are high profile.
              Is this something prevalent in the English game? I don’t see it here.

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                For me it is the pointless interviews, mid game (coach or player leaving at half time). But yeah reporters need to step up and get decent questions. I don;t mind a bit of pre match mind games, they often don;t work!

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                • M Machpants

                  For me it is the pointless interviews, mid game (coach or player leaving at half time). But yeah reporters need to step up and get decent questions. I don;t mind a bit of pre match mind games, they often don;t work!

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                  @Machpants said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                  reporters need to step up and get decent questions

                  The vast majority are leading questions. The coach/player could legitimately just answer every question with "Yes"

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                    Personally, the growing antagonism between opposing fans and partisan press. There have always been muppets, but now it seems like there's a narrative (driven by media) that somehow the opposition are cheating, the refs favour them and nothing that your team does is wrong.

                    This is exemplified by the 'we have a deal' penalty discussion at the end of Lions 3; so many people arguing 'it's never a penalty', 'Read was offside', etc. Just frustrating

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      Personally, the growing antagonism between opposing fans and partisan press. There have always been muppets, but now it seems like there's a narrative (driven by media) that somehow the opposition are cheating, the refs favour them and nothing that your team does is wrong.

                      This is exemplified by the 'we have a deal' penalty discussion at the end of Lions 3; so many people arguing 'it's never a penalty', 'Read was offside', etc. Just frustrating

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                      @nzzp said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                      Personally, the growing antagonism between opposing fans and partisan press. There have always been muppets, but now it seems like there's a narrative (driven by media) that somehow the opposition are cheating, the refs favour them and nothing that your team does is wrong.

                      This is exemplified by the 'we have a deal' penalty discussion at the end of Lions 3; so many people arguing 'it's never a penalty', 'Read was offside', etc. Just frustrating

                      Or more recently 'NZ players never get penalised' carry on fed by the Jaapie media.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @nzzp said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                        Personally, the growing antagonism between opposing fans and partisan press. There have always been muppets, but now it seems like there's a narrative (driven by media) that somehow the opposition are cheating, the refs favour them and nothing that your team does is wrong.

                        This is exemplified by the 'we have a deal' penalty discussion at the end of Lions 3; so many people arguing 'it's never a penalty', 'Read was offside', etc. Just frustrating

                        Or more recently 'NZ players never get penalised' carry on fed by the Jaapie media.

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                        @booboo .....and articles from Stuff which says study "shows home ref bias" really, you think???

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                        • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                          @booboo .....and articles from Stuff which says study "shows home ref bias" really, you think???

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                          @Jailbreak7 Apparently, a post with some numbers on GAGR's blog is a "study".

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @Jailbreak7 Apparently, a post with some numbers on GAGR's blog is a "study".

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                            @Stargazer said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                            @Jailbreak7 Apparently, a post with some numbers on GAGR's blog is a "study".

                            That's "social science" isn't it?

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                              Why is it so often that referees allow tackled players to get back up to their feet (without letting go of the ball) while the tackler has completed the tackle? This seems to never be penalised in the specific situation when it's the fullback/wing chasing back to gather a kick that has gone through everyone, and the FB/wing needs to buy some time after gathering it. Annoying!

                              Oh, and did anyone mention mauls, especially the shifting around of attackers so that all defending players are unable to defend anymore and have to retreat in order to contest again? At any time?

                              Other than that, rugby is pretty good. Better than a lot of other sports, anyways.

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                                I thought this was a really boring disappointing 6 Nations, the least entertaining or engaging I can remember in nearly 40 years of watching the tournament. Chaotic and random referring, sides with not much creativity, poor standards of defence, sides baying for penalties and cards, a lack of players with personality or charisma.

                                I'll watch the All Blacks games in thr RWC but I'm not looking forward to the tournament apart from that.

                                Rugby, what went wrong with you?

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  I thought this was a really boring disappointing 6 Nations, the least entertaining or engaging I can remember in nearly 40 years of watching the tournament. Chaotic and random referring, sides with not much creativity, poor standards of defence, sides baying for penalties and cards, a lack of players with personality or charisma.

                                  I'll watch the All Blacks games in thr RWC but I'm not looking forward to the tournament apart from that.

                                  Rugby, what went wrong with you?

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                                  @sparky said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                  I thought this was a really boring disappointing 6 Nations, the least entertaining or engaging I can remember in nearly 40 years of watching the tournament. Chaotic and random referring, sides with not much creativity, poor standards of defence, sides baying for penalties and cards, a lack of players with personality or charisma.

                                  I'll watch the All Blacks games in thr RWC but I'm not looking forward to the tournament apart from that.

                                  Rugby, what went wrong with you?

                                  You saw what you wanted to see mate, it was a cracking tournament.

                                  Italy, Scotland on the rise and fantastic to watch, Wales and England in chaos, France with some simply sublime rugby and the unstoppable behemoth of Irish efficiency.

                                  Really enjoyed it.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    I thought this was a really boring disappointing 6 Nations, the least entertaining or engaging I can remember in nearly 40 years of watching the tournament. Chaotic and random referring, sides with not much creativity, poor standards of defence, sides baying for penalties and cards, a lack of players with personality or charisma.

                                    I'll watch the All Blacks games in thr RWC but I'm not looking forward to the tournament apart from that.

                                    Rugby, what went wrong with you?

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                                    @sparky

                                    I have to disagree. Thought both the 6Ns and SR so far have been a really big improvement on recent years - fewer hold ups, less pissing around at the scrums and rucks and some real ambition on attack.

                                    The handling of cards in SR seems to be a big step forward and just hope it gets rolled out globally.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @sparky said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                      I thought this was a really boring disappointing 6 Nations, the least entertaining or engaging I can remember in nearly 40 years of watching the tournament. Chaotic and random referring, sides with not much creativity, poor standards of defence, sides baying for penalties and cards, a lack of players with personality or charisma.

                                      I'll watch the All Blacks games in thr RWC but I'm not looking forward to the tournament apart from that.

                                      Rugby, what went wrong with you?

                                      You saw what you wanted to see mate, it was a cracking tournament.

                                      Italy, Scotland on the rise and fantastic to watch, Wales and England in chaos, France with some simply sublime rugby and the unstoppable behemoth of Irish efficiency.

                                      Really enjoyed it.

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                                      @Bones Maybe it's just my version of a mid-life crisis, but with the exception of the Blues-Crusaders game I found the football I watched this weekend much more absorbing than the Rugby.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @sparky

                                        I have to disagree. Thought both the 6Ns and SR so far have been a really big improvement on recent years - fewer hold ups, less pissing around at the scrums and rucks and some real ambition on attack.

                                        The handling of cards in SR seems to be a big step forward and just hope it gets rolled out globally.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                        @sparky

                                        I have to disagree. Thought both the 6Ns and SR so far have been a really big improvement on recent years - fewer hold ups, less pissing around at the scrums and rucks and some real ambition on attack.

                                        The handling of cards in SR seems to be a big step forward and just hope it gets rolled out globally.

                                        because of various commitments i have actually been able to watch many whole games....but what i have seen...i agree, things seem faster

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