Wellington Phoenix
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You can't blame him. Out of favour and disregarded for years, then wins golden boot. Coach leaves, other clubs with better money come calling. Good on him
@canefan said in Wellington Phoenix:
You can't blame him. Out of favour and disregarded for years, then wins golden boot. Coach leaves, other clubs with better money come calling. Good on him
He's hardly been out of favour or disregarded, since Ernie at least he's always been a key starter for the team.
That said, this is the model for the a league. Guys who do well, leave. It's a shop window for just about every other league in the world.
I don't see this as a backdoor to another a league team because he's off contract. If the deal in Korea falls through and he has to return to the a league then it will be the phoenix.
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Maybe he's returning to Waitakere United???
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Maybe he's returning to Waitakere United???
@African-Monkey love it good comment
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So Rudan left the club and took 3 of our better players with him. One player has let slip that he was recruited during last season. We got tapped up
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Who knows with this stuff, it's easy to look after the fact and figure that's what happened, but it may well have been people just contacting him after he left or when he made it known he was leaving.
@Godder said in Wellington Phoenix:
Who knows with this stuff, it's easy to look after the fact and figure that's what happened, but it may well have been people just contacting him after he left or when he made it known he was leaving.
It's understandable that players who have the opportunity to follow him would do so after enjoying playing for him in Wellington
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12243534
This will be amazing and impressive if true
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I laugh when they abuse Wellington for the crowds yet praise Auckland, 1 it’s like 3 times the population so of course there going to get a bigger turn out and 2. It’s supply and demand more people will come because there only in Auckland twice
@mikey07 said in Wellington Phoenix:
I laugh when they abuse Wellington for the crowds yet praise Auckland, 1 it’s like 3 times the population so of course there going to get a bigger turn out and 2. It’s supply and demand more people will come because there only in Auckland twice
They get pretty solid crowds in Wellington. The key to getting consistent big crowds in Auckland is to keep the number of games small to combat apathy. 2 a year seems about right
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@mikey07 said in Wellington Phoenix:
I laugh when they abuse Wellington for the crowds yet praise Auckland, 1 it’s like 3 times the population so of course there going to get a bigger turn out and 2. It’s supply and demand more people will come because there only in Auckland twice
They get pretty solid crowds in Wellington. The key to getting consistent big crowds in Auckland is to keep the number of games small to combat apathy. 2 a year seems about right
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@canefan Yeah I know they do I just something on the radio Monday morning saying Wellington needs to stand up with crowd numbers which I found odd
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Who could have imagined this after the way their season started
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@hydro11 said in What is the point of the Phoenix?:
I also think it's great that someone like @mariner4life can decide to support a team 11,000 miles away coached by a German and reliant on a couple of Brazilians and a Egyptian, all the while dismissing local football culture. How do you think Liverpool even formed? It was local passionate people who were so small minded that they had a dispute with Everton. That's how clubs are formed, that's what they are built on. I guess if they hadn't done that in 1892, by the time you came along you would have just supported another random club because what's the point in small clubs?
holy shit, i missed this. Really? None of this makes any fucking sense at all super-fan. "local football culture" is 6,000 fans in a 34,000 seat stadium watching a team win once a year? Most of whom probably support a premier league side as well (how dismissive).
Their place is not secure. They are a failure on the pitch (making finals is a lot easier when 60% of the teams in the comp do). The Asian Federation isn't thrilled by the thought of an Oceania side making their Champions League (haha). Even overly optimistic and passionate Aussie soccer writers are starting to see that the A-League is stagnating. And I read an article today that thinks part of it is the lack of pathways for Aussie players. Having 10% of the teams trying to be a pathway for NZ players isn't going to help that.
Little point trying to compare to the Warriors, their own fans acknowledge they are a dumpster fire of epic proportions.
If you would like to change the tack of the argument. Why are they so shit? What needs to change?
I have to say - I am loving reading back on this thread now. The Wellington Phoenix have now successfully developed Sarpreet Singh who has been signed for Bayern Munich. Of course, he mainly plays for the reserves but it still shows that the team can be a pathway. Cacace is probably a better player and will be off overseas himself before too long.
Meanwhile, the a-league has expanded and added an 11th team. Only problem is they average only 5k in their first season. Do we really think the Phoenix will be kicked out for poor crowds when the new teams are doing far worse? The Phoenix are actually 6/11 in the a-league this season for attendance. I think it goes to show that the Phoenix aren't taking up a spot in the league which could be filled by a successful Australian team.
The Phoenix will continue to do well if they realise what their competitive advantage is. It is young New Zealand players. Most Aussies won't have Wellington as their #1 pick and the big Aussie clubs are always going to have more money.
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I have to say - I am loving reading back on this thread now. The Wellington Phoenix have now successfully developed Sarpreet Singh who has been signed for Bayern Munich. Of course, he mainly plays for the reserves but it still shows that the team can be a pathway. Cacace is probably a better player and will be off overseas himself before too long.
Meanwhile, the a-league has expanded and added an 11th team. Only problem is they average only 5k in their first season. Do we really think the Phoenix will be kicked out for poor crowds when the new teams are doing far worse? The Phoenix are actually 6/11 in the a-league this season for attendance. I think it goes to show that the Phoenix aren't taking up a spot in the league which could be filled by a successful Australian team.
The Phoenix will continue to do well if they realise what their competitive advantage is. It is young New Zealand players. Most Aussies won't have Wellington as their #1 pick and the big Aussie clubs are always going to have more money.
@hydro11 said in Wellington Phoenix:
I have to say - I am loving reading back on this thread now. The Wellington Phoenix have now successfully developed Sarpreet Singh who has been signed for Bayern Munich. Of course, he mainly plays for the reserves but it still shows that the team can be a pathway.
You get the feeling from the coach's comments that Singh is the next cab off the rank - he seems to be a big fan.
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I was happy the Phoenix stood their ground about it being non-negotiable to be able to train during the 14-day isolation period.
