Tennis
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<p>All sports betting in India is illegal.</p>
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<p>This was discuused at length in the Cairns thread, but I suggest you read "Bookie, Gambler, Fixer, Spy".</p>
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<p>The image that you guys have of players bowling no balls to order (or serving up double faults) and some bookmaker or Gambler in India making money from that is crap. The way the western media report this stuff is just plain wrong. </p>
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<p>Will do Sammy, thanks.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="553111" data-time="1453085048"><p>Highly recommend it Donsteppa.<br><br>
it will change your perspective of cricket and sports betting. <br><br><br>
Excellent read, thanks for posting</p></blockquote>
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So if our understanding of how spot fixing works is wrong then Lou Vincents testimony was bullshit. He explicitly described scenarios along the lines of how we imagine it works (and how I expect tennis does) -
<p>TBH this would be the only way to make tennis worth watching.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="553138" data-time="1453092959">
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<p>So if our understanding of how spot fixing works is wrong then Lou Vincents testimony was bullshit. He explicitly described scenarios along the lines of how we imagine it works (and how I expect tennis does)</p>
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<p>You very much USED to be able to bet on things like no balls in first over, runs between over 10-15 etc, till everyone realised how easy that was to fix - and was fixed. Go back to the 90's that was a viable bet. Not any more.</p> -
<p>The analysis used in the investigation is detailed here:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://github.com/BuzzFeedNews/2016-01-tennis-betting-analysis'>https://github.com/BuzzFeedNews/2016-01-tennis-betting-analysis</a></p> -
I see Nadal suspiciously lost his opening match of the Australian open...
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="553350" data-time="1453226161"><p>The last three posts are again what make me loathe match/spot fixers so much - we go from random things being "the joys of sport" to being possibly suspicious (even in jest).</p></blockquote>
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It's like every time Pakistan lose a cricket match, either a game they should have gone on to win ( shelling easy catches, batsmen throwing away their wicket) or a truly poor performance against a lower side they should always beat. It's Pakistan they do fall apart for legitimate reasons sometimes, but we will always suspect they are on the take. -
<p>In a way, fixing in tennis is probably one of the more damaging ones. A cricketer throwing away his wicket at a certain point is an event that could have happened anyway, and unless a whole team is in on a fix then still leaves the other players all doing the 'right' thing.</p>
<p>Tennis though is one on one. Spectators only pay and watch because they see entertainment in watching a competition between two players. Fixing removes that competition and they are watching a complete farce.</p>
<p>Sure, a clever player could even provide them with more entertainment, falling behind then battling back only to fail in the end but I doubt that happens</p> -
<p>I wonder what other sports are rife for fixing?</p>
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<p>Golf? Too random maybe? The variables of erractic form, different courses and weather make betting on golf a mugs game anyway. Possibly some ability to influence in the last round once variables have settled but then the money for players by doing their best probably outweighs what a fixer would pay. Maybe some profit in where a middle of the pack player ends up on the results sheet but even then he would be having to work around the performances of others.</p>
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<p>Soccer? Really only goalies and maybe defenders being able to influence scores or results. But only when the chance presents itself by the general play.</p>
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<p>Darts? Plenty of scope there.</p>
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<p>Rugby? Pretty low chance. would need to be the captain taking options (when penalties present themselves)</p> -
<p>As Federer said, let's see some names. According to the TV news, one of the names on the list is a former US Open champ. Given the geographical locations of the betting syndicates who made millions on match fixing one name stands out.</p>
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<p>Crucial, baseball and basketball are two sports that spring to mind. Baseball could be manipulated in the same way as cricket with balls and strikes. </p> -
Lankans having some issues in crikay ...<br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11576482'>http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11576482</a><br><br>
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<p>Tennis is the perfect sport for this, no doubt. Has all of the conditions:</p>
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<p>- Multiple markets that are easily manipulated without necessarily altering the end result (eg set by set betting)</p>
<p>- Markets offered on low level circuits such as challenger and futures tournaments that no-one cares about</p>
<p>- Said tournaments have fuck all prizemoney, making fixing a far more lucrative option</p>
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<p>I read an article (which I can't find now) which detailed a common fix strategy in the low level circuits. Two players would agree to split the first two sets in an agreed order (player A gets the first, B the second) and then play for the chocolates in the 3rd with no restrictions. Their mates would load up on each set and make a killing, while the integrity of the match itself was somewhat preserved.</p>
