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Exodus 2016

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  • UncoU Offline
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    Unco
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    #95

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="552014" data-time="1452576147">
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    <p>I think that is the expectation there...</p>
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    <p>If that's the case then they've only got themselves to blame, they should've taken a closer look before throwing a shitload of money at him. Even when he made the ABs in 2013, he was still just the fourth choice 10 and by 2015, he'd sunk down to sixth choice.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As for Nonu, it's not the first time he's had an insanely long season and suffered the consequences. He had a sabbatical in Japan after the 2011 RWC and didn't look too hot when he came back.</p>

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      #96

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="552023" data-time="1452579200">
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      <p>If that's the case then they've only got themselves to blame, they should've taken a closer look before throwing a shitload of money at him. Even when he made the ABs in 2013, he was still just the fourth choice 10 and by 2015, he'd sunk down to sixth choice.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>As for Nonu, it's not the first time he's had an insanely long season and suffered the consequences. He had a sabbatical in Japan after the 2011 RWC and didn't look too hot when he came back.</p>
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      <p> </p>
      <p>NOt saying he is right, but that was likely thier expectation; a guy that played for the ABs so the expectation would be to walk off the plane and hit the field running...I expect the fact he had 1 cap following injuries was not a huge part of signing him, it was 'former All Black Tom Taylor' </p>

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        Stargazer
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        #97

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="552023" data-time="1452579200">
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        <p>If that's the case then they've only got themselves to blame,<strong> they should've taken a closer look before throwing a shitload of money at him</strong>. Even when he made the ABs in 2013, he was still just the fourth choice 10 and by 2015, he'd sunk down to sixth choice.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>As for Nonu, it's not the first time he's had an insanely long season and suffered the consequences. He had a sabbatical in Japan after the 2011 RWC and didn't look too hot when he came back.</p>
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        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>I doubt Toulon has thrown a shitload of money at Tom Taylor. He's just on loan from Bayonne for one year. The money will be good, but no where near as much as Nonu.</p>

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        • gollumG Offline
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          #98

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="551905" data-time="1452552468">
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          <p>you buy blokes on the verge of retirement, and buy a team of players who are playing for the cheque book, pay them an obscene amount of money, and you wonder why they aren't pissing blood for you? What a tool, these guys are test players, Toulon are not a country. </p>
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          <p> </p>
          <p>As he notes tho' thats exactly what he bought in terms of Wilkenson & he was fantastic. Really outstanding. Same with Matt Gittau</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>He's bought a few massive semi retired players & they have been among the top performers in Europe, so when he buys others & they don't give a shit he gets miffed.</p>

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            nostrildamus
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            #99

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="551975" data-time="1452568218">
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            <p>Ridiculous comment about Tom Taylor. How does that help his performance in any way?</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I have the impression that Tom Taylor, an All Black, trembles each time he has a penalty attempt," Boudjellal said.</span></p>
            <p> </p>
            <p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">You sir are a dick</span></p>
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            <p>And if there is one aspect of rugby Taylor shouldn't be worried about, it is his kicking. He had the best stats for awhile didn't he? Or did even that go downhill?</p>

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              #100

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="552157" data-time="1452598624">
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              <p>As he notes tho' thats exactly what he bought in terms of Wilkenson & he was fantastic. Really outstanding. Same with Matt Gittau</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>He's bought a few massive semi retired players & they have been among the top performers in Europe, so when he buys others & they don't give a shit he gets miffed.</p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p>Yeah, he resurrected Juan Smith's career.</p>

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                gollum
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                #101

                <p>

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                  Nepia
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                  #102

                  <p>Ding ding ding, it's Gollum here with the late news.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>:)</p>

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                    #103

                    <p>Looks like Jamie Joseph's new job will be announced today:</p>
                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11577070'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11577070</a></p>

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                      #104

                      <p>Confirmed</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/76105080/joseph-confirmed-as-japan-coach'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/76105080/joseph-confirmed-as-japan-coach</a></p>

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                      • UncoU Offline
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                        Unco
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                        #105

                        <p>Good for him, six seasons is a good stint and that one horror season aside, he's done an incredible job in what was once probably the hardest coaching job in the country. Hope he follows up Eddie's success and does a kick ass job.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Sucks for the Landers that he's leaving but at least he's made the announcement nice and early, so they've got plenty of time to pick a new one and let him make whatever changes he wants to make.</p>

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                          #106

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="553620" data-time="1453328347">
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                          <p>Good for him, six seasons is a good stint and that one horror season aside, he's done an incredible job in what was once probably the hardest coaching job in the country. Hope he follows up Eddie's success and does a kick ass job.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Sucks for the Landers that he's leaving but at least he's made the announcement nice and early, so they've got plenty of time to pick a new one and let him make whatever changes he wants to make.</p>
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                          <p> </p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Hopefully Tony Brown wants to step up. I would like to see him in a head coach position with an eye to the future and possible AB coaching team of Umaga, Brown, Rangi in a while.</p>

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                            #107

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="553621" data-time="1453329157">
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                            <p>Hopefully Tony Brown wants to step up. I would like to see him in a head coach position with an eye to the future and possible AB coaching team of Umaga, Brown, Rangi in a while.</p>
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                            <p> </p>
                            <p>We'd probably want a forwards coach, too. Scott Robertson would be another All Black you could throw in. Other options include Filo Tiatia and Mark Hammett </p>

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                              #108

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bobily" data-cid="553623" data-time="1453329642">
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                              <p>We'd probably want a forwards coach, too. Scott Robertson would be another All Black you could throw in. Other options include Filo Tiatia and <strike>Mark Hammett </strike></p>
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                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Fixed</p>

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                                bobily
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                                <p>I wondered how long that would take</p>

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                                  #110

                                  <p>I think for rugby everywhere it was crucial Japan captured the momentum from RWC 2015 and got a good coach with Eddie departing.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>I think they've done very well with Joseph - strong track record, has lived/coached/played in Japan. Obviously Highlanders fans won't love it but I think Tony Brown could be well placed to carry on the culture that Joseph has built (ala Gibson at the Tahs, although proof will be in the pudding for both).</p>

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                                    SouthernMan
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                                    #111

                                    <p>From what I've been told Tony Brown doesn't want the top gig. </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>He believes wants to remain a hands on coach and would much rather stick with the assistant role. </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>The only coach I can see in New Zealand who would be a good fit is Scott Robertson, so I hope Clarky and the rest of the Highlanders set up hunt him. Although the timing could be a bit tough and he may end up with the Crusaders gig. </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>If we can't get Scott Robertson then I would look overseas. </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>The franchise doesn't need a coach to rebuild things, it needs a coach who can fit into the systems already in place. </p>

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                                      #112

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SouthernMan" data-cid="553695" data-time="1453346386">
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                                      <p>From what I've been told Tony Brown doesn't want the top gig. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>He believes wants to remain a hands on coach and would much rather stick with the assistant role. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>The only coach I can see in New Zealand who would be a good fit is Scott Robertson, so I hope Clarky and the rest of the Highlanders set up hunt him. Although the timing could be a bit tough and he may end up with the Crusaders gig. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>If we can't get Scott Robertson then I would look overseas. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>The franchise doesn't need a coach to rebuild things, it needs a coach who can fit into the systems already in place. </p>
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                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p>What Hammer up to these days? </p>

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                                        SouthernMan
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                                        #113

                                        <p>He can stay in Japan, the Highlanders don't need to be wrecked. </p>

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                                          #114

                                          Robbie?

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