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Exodus 2016

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  • mimicM Offline
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    #112

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SouthernMan" data-cid="553695" data-time="1453346386">
    <div>
    <p>From what I've been told Tony Brown doesn't want the top gig. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>He believes wants to remain a hands on coach and would much rather stick with the assistant role. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The only coach I can see in New Zealand who would be a good fit is Scott Robertson, so I hope Clarky and the rest of the Highlanders set up hunt him. Although the timing could be a bit tough and he may end up with the Crusaders gig. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If we can't get Scott Robertson then I would look overseas. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The franchise doesn't need a coach to rebuild things, it needs a coach who can fit into the systems already in place. </p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>What Hammer up to these days? </p>

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    • S Offline
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      #113

      <p>He can stay in Japan, the Highlanders don't need to be wrecked. </p>

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      • boobooB Offline
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        #114

        Robbie?

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        • mariner4lifeM Offline
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          #115

          <p>Bring him in, he can chase Ben Smith and Naholo to the Chiefs (they are both so fucking disruptive)</p>

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            #116

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="553699" data-time="1453347197">
            <div>
            <p>Bring him in, he can chase Ben Smith and Naholo to the Chiefs (they are both so fucking disruptive)</p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Nah, Ben Smith and Aaron Smith. Gotta work on completing our set of AB halfbacks.</p>

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            • mariner4lifeM Offline
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              #117

              <p>halfbacks we got, outside backs we need (and tight forwards now too i guess)</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>as an aside, if SBW wasn't off chasing different silverware, would any team have a better inside back combination than TKB, Cruden, SBW and Ngatai?</p>

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                #118

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="553721" data-time="1453355387">
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                <p>halfbacks we got, outside backs we need (and tight forwards now too i guess)</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>as an aside, if SBW wasn't off chasing different silverware, would any team have a better inside back combination than TKB, Cruden, SBW and Ngatai?</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>A Smith, Sopoaga, Fekitoa & B Smith moved to 13 where he should be....</p>

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                  #119

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="553737" data-time="1453370479">
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                  <p>A Smith, Sopoaga, Fekitoa & B Smith moved to 13 where he should be....</p>
                  </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Cubelli, Toomua, Lealiifano, Kuridrani</p>

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                  • UncoU Offline
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                    #120

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="553737" data-time="1453370479">
                    <div>
                    <p>A Smith, Sopoaga, Fekitoa & B Smith moved to 13 where he should be....</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Sounds great, right up until the opposition get the ball and then you've got the weakest tackling first five in the country, a 12 who rushes up out of the defensive line and a 13 who can't defend at centre when he's got a 12 inside him, let alone when he doesn't.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Leave the 'cuda where he is.</p>

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                      #121

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="553743" data-time="1453372172">
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                      <p>Sounds great, right up until the opposition get the ball and then you've got the weakest tackling first five in the country, a 12 who rushes up out of the defensive line and a 13 who can't defend at centre when he's got a 12 inside him, let alone when he doesn't.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Leave the 'cuda where he is.</p>
                      </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Laurie Mains mentality applies, "sure, they'll score 30 points against us, but we'll score 50 in reply"</p>

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                        #122

                        The Sydney City Roosters are trying to lure back Sonny Bill Williams apparently:<br><br>
                        <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/76436862/sydney-roosters-trying-to-lure-sonny-bill-williams-back--report'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/76436862/sydney-roosters-trying-to-lure-sonny-bill-williams-back--report</a>

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                          <p>Is this really news though? I wonder if Khoder has met with the likes of Racing, Toulon or any big Euro rugby club in the past few months?</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>I'd be surprised if League teams werent chasing him (along with the odd other high profile rugby player) he has proven his worth in League, plus it'd give League a 'win' over rugby with him going back there to finish his career...</p>

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                            #124

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="555638" data-time="1454296000">
                            <div>
                            <p><strong>Is this really news though? I wonder if Khoder has met with the likes of Racing, Toulon or any big Euro rugby club in the past few months?</strong></p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>I'd be surprised if League teams werent chasing him (along with the odd other high profile rugby player) he has proven his worth in League, plus it'd give League a 'win' over rugby with him going back there to finish his career...</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>There were reports in the last week or so that Toulon were chasing SBW for 2017 onwards.</p>

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                            • UncoU Offline
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                              #125

                              <p>I'm sure he's received a ton of offers recently and the NZRU will be one of them. The 2017 Lions Tour has to be a hell of an incentive to stick around.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Got to laugh at the idea of the Roosters signing him this year though. As if he's just going to give up on his Olympic dream to run off to a League franchise that's down with the dogs.</p>

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                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Billy Tell" data-cid="546600" data-time="1449590773">
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                                <p>Do we think Vito is going to stay or go?  Think his contract is up at the end of 2016.  More rumblings about a Top 14 move.</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Confirmed gone from end of Super season this year. France.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11583821'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11583821</a></p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>I wonder if Dagg will follow? Their respective partners are very good friends.</p>

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                                • Billy TellB Offline
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                                  #127

                                  Vito was really a nearly man. So much potential never quite enough brawn. Think this was telegraphed a mile off just took a while to finalise. Still he had a pretty decent 2015.

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                                    <p>Not lacking in brawn. His well advertised work on was adding a hard edge to his play. Has always had the size, strength, skills and athleticism. Apart from the odd error he served the ABs very well, let's not forget that.</p>
                                    <p>His 'problem' was that without that extra edge to his tight play (those aggresive moments at the right time that can turn a game) he was never going to be a number one choice.</p>
                                    <p>No one is ever the complete package (apart from the odd freak) it is just that the box Vito didn't tick was higher up the priority list.</p>
                                    <p>Even Messam was preferred at times despite Vito being superior in other areas.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Good decision for him though. With Akira Ioane coming through, Luatua looking to fight his way back and the experience of Kaino still required Vito has picked a good time to cash in.</p>

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                                      #129

                                      What's your definition of brawn?? Maybe I should say how to use his brawn.

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                                        Crucial
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                                        #130

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Billy Tell" data-cid="555939" data-time="1454445352">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>What's your definition of brawn?? Maybe I should say how to use his brawn.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Yeah, we were probably saying the same thing.</p>
                                        <p>I read brawn as physical strength and he isn't lacking there. It's that touch of mongrel that is missing. Comes across as 'too nice' when playing.</p>

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                                          #131

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="555927" data-time="1454443176">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Confirmed gone from end of Super season this year. France.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11583821'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11583821</a></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><strong>I wonder if Dagg will follow</strong>? Their respective partners are very good friends.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>No, Dagg is staying.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                                          <p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="color:#333333;">Israel Dagg removes out clause from New Zealand Rugby contract</span></strong></span></span></p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">Last updated 11:15, January 24 2016</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">Israel Dagg is sticking around New Zealand for the foreseeable future.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">The 49-test All Blacks fullback wasn't required for the recent Rugby World Cup triumph in the United Kingdom, and did tweet afterwards suggesting his international journey was over.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">However, Dagg has moved to rid his contract of an out-clause for 2016, and promises to be around until 2017.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">"I've terminated my out clause for this year and I'm going to be around until at least 2017.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">"I will admit I was looking overseas but I had a good sit down with New Zealand Rugby and my agent and Steve Hansen ... I'm not ready to leave," Dagg told Newstalk ZB.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">"I love New Zealand too much, love being around familiar faces, I'm only 27."</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">The Lions tour to New Zealand is in 2017, and it would appear Dagg is eyeing a spot in that All Blacks squad should he rediscover his best form.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">"I'm going to be around until at least 2017 - if I make the All Blacks I will be super-pumped. But I'm looking forward to getting out there and having some fun. I think that's been my problem - I've been taking it way too serious.</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">"When you miss out you want to pack your back. I've got to find the fun factor. When I was young I'd go out there and play what I see."</span></span></span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;"> - Stuff</span></span></span></p>
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