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Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    http://nelsonweekly.co.nz/2019/11/nelson-colleges-greatest-team-revealed/

    Someone already did Nelson College last year. If the teams actually played tomorrow, this would be reasonably competitive! I suspect there's a few old time ABs missing.

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    @Chris-B Handy side. Marfell would be a pretty small lock though wouldn't he?

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      @Chris-B Handy side. Marfell would be a pretty small lock though wouldn't he?

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      @shark Yeah - he mainly played No. 8 at provincial level as I recall.

      I wonder when Luke Romano left Nelson - be handy if he was a third former at Nelson College! 🙂

      Edit: I see in the notes below the team a requirement that you had to have played for the NC first XV - which ruled out some interesting candidates. Maybe Simon Mannering could play lock! 🙂

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        The Lindisfarne Factory:
        Hard to get into the back three

        Timu Fullback
        Dagg Wing
        Mason Emerson - Wing
        Bridge - Center
        2nd 5 - Mick Duncan (2 Tests 1971)
        Tiaan Falcon - 1st 5
        Half Back - Hamish Natush (can't spell his name pretty sure he made NZ 17's or NZ schools before breaking his neck)
        Taine Randell - 8
        Hugh Renton - 7
        Sam Goodwin - 6
        I will reluctantly cover 5
        Parsons - 4
        Campbell Johnstone - Prop
        Tim Cadwallader (Hooker)
        Eddie Coombs - Prop

        Reserves: Richard Kineer 1st 5

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          Without digging into the past records for NPC players.

          Hamilton BHS

          15 Jared Payne (Ireland)/Jack Tuck (NZ)/Daryl Halligan (RL)
          14 Sean Maitland (Scotland)/Henry Speight (Aust)/Declan O'Donnell (SR)
          13 Scott McLeod (NZ)/Bert Cooke (NZ)/Save Tukola (SR)
          12 Lachie Cameron (NZ)/Rhys Ellison (NZM)/Dwayne Sweeney (NZM)/Jackson Willison (NZM)/Quinn Tupaea (SR)/Orbyn Leger (SR)
          11 Sevu Reece (NZ)/Emoni Narawa (SR)
          10 Bryn Gatland (SR)/Trent Renata (SR)
          9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow (NZ)/Kevin Greene (NZ)
          8 Warren Gatland (NZ)/Jahrome Brown (SR Brumbies)
          7 Hugh Blake (Scotland)
          6 Tom Coventry (NPC)
          5 Tiwini Hemi (NZM)/Josh Lord (SR)
          4 Richard Coventry (SR)
          3 ???
          2 Ron Hemi (NZ)/Aled de Malmanche (NZ)
          1 Toby Smith (Aust)/Ayden Johnstone (SR)/Fraser Armstrong (SR)

          I have selected Gats at no.8 as that is where he played schoolboy rugby.

          Plenty of depth in the outside backs but lacking in some positions in the forwards.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            Slim pickings for Hastings Boys, here's the ABs I know about (3 big names in Robertson, Davis and Kronfeld but not many others) and Super players off the top of my head.

            Roger Randle
            Bruce Robertson
            Bill Davis
            Bob Burgess (1970s AB who spent a year at Hastings Boys)
            Danny Lee/Alby Mathewson
            Hubert McLean (1930s AB)
            Josh Kronfeld
            Hika Elliot.

            Super Rugby

            Ben Tamiefuna
            Karl Lowe
            Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
            Tone Kopalani
            Sam Anderson-Heather
            Folau Fakatava
            Devon Flanders
            Danny Toala

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            @Nepia Tivani Fomai would slide in there somewhere surely. Magpies/Samoa and also responsible for the hardest I've ever been tackled in my life.
            Rosenberg might get a mention. And Alex Tulou has been playing in France for the last decade in the Top League and was at one stage in the French wider training squad.

            Im only just hearing about Corona Virus now because he tackled me so hard at school he knocked me back a few months in time.

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              Auckland Grammar.

              Take your pick...

              http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/schoollist.asp?sl_id=Auckland Grammar&stats_id=71

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                @Nepia Tivani Fomai would slide in there somewhere surely. Magpies/Samoa and also responsible for the hardest I've ever been tackled in my life.
                Rosenberg might get a mention. And Alex Tulou has been playing in France for the last decade in the Top League and was at one stage in the French wider training squad.

                Im only just hearing about Corona Virus now because he tackled me so hard at school he knocked me back a few months in time.

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                @Magpie_in_aus Alex Tulou was the one I couldn’t think of his name. Rosenberg didn’t really kick on.

                Imagine how much better this team would have been without Lindersfarne and it’s chequebook pinching he likes of Randell and Dagg. 😏

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Magpie_in_aus Alex Tulou was the one I couldn’t think of his name. Rosenberg didn’t really kick on.

                  Imagine how much better this team would have been without Lindersfarne and it’s chequebook pinching he likes of Randell and Dagg. 😏

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                  @Nepia Taine lived closer to Te Aute....
                  Dagg wouldn't have made it past 5th form if he went to HBHS....although he probably could have joined the 'sports academy' and done 4th-year 5th form with a few of the others.

                  Anyway, both were academics (well in Taines case he actually was) and only found out they had sporting talent once it was nurtured at the farne'.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @Magpie_in_aus Alex Tulou was the one I couldn’t think of his name. Rosenberg didn’t really kick on.

                    Imagine how much better this team would have been without Lindersfarne and it’s chequebook pinching he likes of Randell and Dagg. 😏

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                    @Nepia Did Gordon Falcon go to Lindisfarne as well?

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                      @JK

                      Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

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                        @Nepia Taine lived closer to Te Aute....
                        Dagg wouldn't have made it past 5th form if he went to HBHS....although he probably could have joined the 'sports academy' and done 4th-year 5th form with a few of the others.

                        Anyway, both were academics (well in Taines case he actually was) and only found out they had sporting talent once it was nurtured at the farne'.

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                        @Magpie_in_aus said in Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV:

                        @Nepia Taine lived closer to Te Aute....
                        Dagg wouldn't have made it past 5th form if he went to HBHS....although he probably could have joined the 'sports academy' and done 4th-year 5th form with a few of the others.

                        Anyway, both were academics (well in Taines case he actually was) and only found out they had sporting talent once it was nurtured at the farne'.

                        Taine was from Flaxmere, which is not closer to TA and he definitely went to Lindersfarne on a sporting scholarship (along with Christian Makarere at the same time).

                        Yep on Gordon Falcon.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @JK

                          Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

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                          @Tim said in Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV:

                          @JK

                          Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

                          Not clued up enough to do either mate.

                          Do they have to be students or can they be teachers as well?

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                            @JK

                            Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

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                            @Tim said in Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV:

                            @JK

                            Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

                            1. Ron Williams
                            2. Liam Barry (teacher only?? think he went to Rosmini)
                            3. Dillon Hunt
                            4. Frano Botica
                            5. Luke McAlister
                            6. Nick Evans

                            Not sure who else - have trawl the north harbour side I guess. Our basketball team would be a whole lot better - prob best starting 5 in the country

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                              @Tim said in Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV:

                              @JK

                              Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

                              1. Ron Williams
                              2. Liam Barry (teacher only?? think he went to Rosmini)
                              3. Dillon Hunt
                              4. Frano Botica
                              5. Luke McAlister
                              6. Nick Evans

                              Not sure who else - have trawl the north harbour side I guess. Our basketball team would be a whole lot better - prob best starting 5 in the country

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                              @JK With a name like Barry - ya think 😉

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                                @Tim said in Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV:

                                @JK

                                Can we do a Westlake team, or will we need Rosmini as well?

                                1. Ron Williams
                                2. Liam Barry (teacher only?? think he went to Rosmini)
                                3. Dillon Hunt
                                4. Frano Botica
                                5. Luke McAlister
                                6. Nick Evans

                                Not sure who else - have trawl the north harbour side I guess. Our basketball team would be a whole lot better - prob best starting 5 in the country

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                                @JK Yeah Barry went to Rosmini, as did Boric.

                                Michael Little in the midfield? Mike Harris is another of our 10s.

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                                  If you are including Rosmini alumni then add Larsen, Wulf and G Dowd.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Without digging into the past records for NPC players.

                                    Hamilton BHS

                                    15 Jared Payne (Ireland)/Jack Tuck (NZ)/Daryl Halligan (RL)
                                    14 Sean Maitland (Scotland)/Henry Speight (Aust)/Declan O'Donnell (SR)
                                    13 Scott McLeod (NZ)/Bert Cooke (NZ)/Save Tukola (SR)
                                    12 Lachie Cameron (NZ)/Rhys Ellison (NZM)/Dwayne Sweeney (NZM)/Jackson Willison (NZM)/Quinn Tupaea (SR)/Orbyn Leger (SR)
                                    11 Sevu Reece (NZ)/Emoni Narawa (SR)
                                    10 Bryn Gatland (SR)/Trent Renata (SR)
                                    9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow (NZ)/Kevin Greene (NZ)
                                    8 Warren Gatland (NZ)/Jahrome Brown (SR Brumbies)
                                    7 Hugh Blake (Scotland)
                                    6 Tom Coventry (NPC)
                                    5 Tiwini Hemi (NZM)/Josh Lord (SR)
                                    4 Richard Coventry (SR)
                                    3 ???
                                    2 Ron Hemi (NZ)/Aled de Malmanche (NZ)
                                    1 Toby Smith (Aust)/Ayden Johnstone (SR)/Fraser Armstrong (SR)

                                    I have selected Gats at no.8 as that is where he played schoolboy rugby.

                                    Plenty of depth in the outside backs but lacking in some positions in the forwards.

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                                    @Bovidae Didn't Tom Coventry play for the Crusaders in 1996? You could bump him up from NPC to SR, maybe.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Auckland Grammar.

                                      Take your pick...

                                      http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/schoollist.asp?sl_id=Auckland Grammar&stats_id=71

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                                      @Bovidae said in Pick Your (or any) High Schools' All-Time Greatest XV:

                                      Auckland Grammar.

                                      Take your pick...

                                      http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/schoollist.asp?sl_id=Auckland Grammar&stats_id=71

                                      Come on, can't you put this rag-tag mob of no-hopers into a XV?? 🙂

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                                        @Bovidae Didn't Tom Coventry play for the Crusaders in 1996? You could bump him up from NPC to SR, maybe.

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                                        @shark I thought he might have played for the Chiefs too, but couldn't find any definitive proof. Deon Muir did play for the Crusaders in 1996.

                                        Edit: It looks like Coventry's provincial career ended before SR started.

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                                          Napier Boys

                                          1 Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                          2 Tyrone Thompson (added)
                                          3 Greg Somerville
                                          4 Bryn Evans
                                          5 Chris England (added)
                                          6 Colin Bourke (added)
                                          7 Gareth Evans
                                          8 Richard Turner
                                          9 Brad Weber
                                          10 Ihaia West
                                          11 Zac Guildford
                                          12 Sam McNicol
                                          13 Richard Buckman
                                          14 Karne Hesketh (added)
                                          15 Caleb Makene

                                          Bench:
                                          16 Glen Rolls
                                          21 Stu Forster
                                          22 Dan Waenga
                                          23 Bailyn Sullivan

                                          I'm sure I missed a few ...

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