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    @dogmeat said in Coffee:

    Now I just need to start using my brewery (made one batch in 5 years - although it has been ace for somewhere to put my dough when its proving) and it'll be one less white elephant.

    what brewery you got (derailing thread slightly)? My hobbies are brewing and smoking meat - family friendly, but not so good for me as other things πŸ™‚

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    @nzzp https://williamswarn.co.nz/product/starter-packs/brewkeg10-litre-complete-pack-plus/

    I mentioned beer as I know you spend time on that. I also have a Bradley Smoker I don't use....

    60-70 hrs week at work - weekend at my partners (usually) doesn't leave much play time. I do smoke just not in the Bradley that often.

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    @nzzp said in Coffee:

    @Catogrande said in Coffee:

    Too much time for not good enough returns=coffee machines.

    Seriously, try a Breville. We love a good coffee, and it makes 'good' coffee easily and simply.

    'Great' coffee is a rabbit hole. Same as 'great' Pizza, beer, women, wine, bread, etc. I'm time poor, and landed on 'good' unless (as @Hooroo says, you want a new hobby πŸ™‚

    This is all true. Breville/sage design those machines aimed at the person that wants minimum fuss for maximum return. They really are quite good.
    If you want a new hobby, go for a decent prosumer manual machine like a rocket or similar with good support.
    If you just want to knock out a coffee that is going to satisfy you then get a good breville.

    Just another point. If you like milky coffees then good milk makes a massive difference to your home results and not only through flavour. Texture is a big part of the experience and enjoyment.
    Again you can practice a lot on your new hobby or let the machine do a good job for you. Breville does good texturing.

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    @dogmeat nice. WilliamsWarn make pretty good gear, but they charge for it πŸ™‚

    If you're interested, the next step is to start making 10L batches for fermenting. You can do it easily on the stovetop, and opens up opportunities for interesting and different beer varieties. But beware -like the coffee, it's a slippery slope!

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    jeez, it's almost like the Fern just agreed on something.

    We need Sport back.

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    @nzzp said in Coffee:

    @Catogrande said in Coffee:

    Too much time for not good enough returns=coffee machines.

    Seriously, try a Breville. We love a good coffee, and it makes 'good' coffee easily and simply.

    'Great' coffee is a rabbit hole. Same as 'great' Pizza, beer, women, wine, bread, etc. I'm time poor, and landed on 'good' unless (as @Hooroo says, you want a new hobby πŸ™‚

    Thanks feller, I’ll have a look at that when I have some time in my hands...

    That’ll be tomorrow then ☹

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    I work from home so I don't really care about the warmup time

    On Breville's I've owned three over the last 15 years. Entry level was a waste of time, mid level was passable.

    The Oracle (not the fancy touch screen) is pretty good. However the reliability has been poor for me. My main complaint is I want more control over the variables. Even saying that I got reasonable use out of it for ~6 years

    I'm now leaning towards a Lelit Mara PL62. The HX heating seems to cover most of the single boiler concerns. Reliability seems good according to owner reviews, also it uses standard e61 parts

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    @Duluth said in Coffee:

    Lelit Mara PL62

    That's a nice little machine. Would certainly be looking at that.

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    @Crucial said in Coffee:

    @Duluth said in Coffee:

    Lelit Mara PL62

    That's a nice little machine. Would certainly be looking at that.

    Italian made too. The Brevilles and De'Longhi tend to be made in China.

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    @Bovidae said in Coffee:

    @Crucial said in Coffee:

    @Duluth said in Coffee:

    Lelit Mara PL62

    That's a nice little machine. Would certainly be looking at that.

    Italian made too. The Brevilles and De'Longhi tend to be made in China.

    Apparently the Oracle touch is made in Britain?? (Going by that video)

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    My first two machines were Italian.

    The first was inherited from the old milkbar business we purchased and turned into our restaurant. a 1950s La Pavoni Brasilia 2 group.
    I was so pissed off when we sold the business and the new owners ripped it out and replaced it with a modern machine. I would have happily reduced the sale price and walked away with it (well rather trucked it away, it weighed a metric fucktonne)

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    I don't know where it ended up but I believe that its history was as one of the first 20 or so machines brought into NZ during the 60s by an Air NZ pilot who ran an import racket on the side using his free freight allowance. These machines are scattered through the country and I don't know how many are still going.

    My second machine was a little single boiler Vice-Versa Koala that I got in Oz.

    alt textIt lasted 15 years of abuse but finally succumbed on the trip to the UK when the scale build up (despite descaling regularly) shook loose and blocked everything up. I stripped it and got it going again but it never really recovered, hence the machine I have now which is surprisingly British built and good quality.

    ![alt text](image url)

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    We bought this a couple of months back and it is bloody amazing in my opinion.

    From switching on I can brew immediately and will have two coffees for me and the mrs plus baby chinos for the kids served and all good in well under 5 minutes.

    Our coffee is better than stuff I (used to - locked down now) buy in cafes around here.

    Important to find a good bean supplier though. Have been using Allpress even though they are a bit more costly.

    https://www.johnlewis.com/sage-ses878-the-barista-pro-coffee-machine/p4081414?sku=238004068&colour=Silver&s_ppc=2dx92700046625462563&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjwqJ_1BRBZEiwAv73uwBRpmtq35GlzytkecKa0-XhtyehkqUevCBsbYu6yATA6kYRi18O96RoC4XAQAvD_BwE

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    @Davesofthunder said in Coffee:

    We bought this a couple of months back and it is bloody amazing in my opinion.

    From switching on I can brew immediately and will have two coffees for me and the mrs plus baby chinos for the kids served and all good in well under 5 minutes.

    Our coffee is better than stuff I (used to - locked down now) buy in cafes around here.

    Important to find a good bean supplier though. Have been using Allpress even though they are a bit more costly.

    https://www.johnlewis.com/sage-ses878-the-barista-pro-coffee-machine/p4081414?sku=238004068&colour=Silver&s_ppc=2dx92700046625462563&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjwqJ_1BRBZEiwAv73uwBRpmtq35GlzytkecKa0-XhtyehkqUevCBsbYu6yATA6kYRi18O96RoC4XAQAvD_BwE

    That is the same as the Breville, just different branding in the UK. Good machine.

    As a tip, seeing a cafe using Allpress in the UK is usually a good sign to getting a decent coffee. They do good barista training and refuse to let a cafe use their beans unless they are up to scratch.

    The beans are pricey though. I used to get them direct from their roasters near Shoreditch station and seem to recall about Β£10 a small bag.

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    @Crucial allpress coffee is my favourite. Worth the extra money

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    My Jewish and Scottish ancestry is loving the fact I prefer plunger coffee to any other after reading how much some of you are spending on your fancy machines.

    $5 K Mart plunger once or twice every few years (the twice is when I smash it on the tap by being unco).

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    @Nepia said in Coffee:

    My Jewish and Scottish ancestry is loving the fact I prefer plunger coffee to any other after reading how much some of you are spending on your fancy machines.

    $5 K Mart plunger once or twice every few years (the twice is when I smash it on the tap by being unco).

    Peasant.

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    @Nepia said in Coffee:

    My Jewish and Scottish ancestry is loving the fact I prefer plunger coffee to any other after reading how much some of you are spending on your fancy machines.

    $5 K Mart plunger once or twice every few years (the twice is when I smash it on the tap by being unco).

    I can't bring myself to buy a fancy machine. And I don't want to go Nespresso. I alternate between an aeropress and a power operated mocka pot. The pot is pretty consistent but it is not espresso

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    @canefan said in Coffee:

    @Nepia said in Coffee:

    My Jewish and Scottish ancestry is loving the fact I prefer plunger coffee to any other after reading how much some of you are spending on your fancy machines.

    $5 K Mart plunger once or twice every few years (the twice is when I smash it on the tap by being unco).

    I can't bring myself to buy a fancy machine. And I don't want to go Nespresso. I alternate between an aeropress and a power operated mocka pot. The pot is pretty consistent but it is not espresso

    Even that sounds too fancy for this peasant. πŸ˜‰

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    @Nepia said in Coffee:

    @canefan said in Coffee:

    @Nepia said in Coffee:

    My Jewish and Scottish ancestry is loving the fact I prefer plunger coffee to any other after reading how much some of you are spending on your fancy machines.

    $5 K Mart plunger once or twice every few years (the twice is when I smash it on the tap by being unco).

    I can't bring myself to buy a fancy machine. And I don't want to go Nespresso. I alternate between an aeropress and a power operated mocka pot. The pot is pretty consistent but it is not espresso

    Even that sounds too fancy for this peasant. πŸ˜‰

    ![alt text](image urlScreenshot_20200429-142442_Chrome.jpg )

    Sort of a French press on roids

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    I have a basic Nespresso machine, found a few capsules that I quite like, so stick with them...I usually only use it on the weekend though, stick to the mighty mochonna instant during the week - 2 x cups per day

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