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Blues 2020

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    For reference (Ardie unavailable).

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    @Bovidae said in Blues 2020:

    For reference (Ardie unavailable).

    Ardie's hair unavailable.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Bovidae

      What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

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      @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

      @Bovidae

      What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

      IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
      Safe hands in the lineout though.
      I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
      I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

      Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

        @Bovidae

        What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

        IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
        Safe hands in the lineout though.
        I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
        I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

        Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

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        @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

        IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
        Safe hands in the lineout though.

        Maybe. But a decline in athleticism is part of the reason I'm not sure about him replacing an AB level loosie.

        If he's still at his peak the UK money will be very tempting. If he comes back it's more likely to be a player on the decline

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

          IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
          Safe hands in the lineout though.

          Maybe. But a decline in athleticism is part of the reason I'm not sure about him replacing an AB level loosie.

          If he's still at his peak the UK money will be very tempting. If he comes back it's more likely to be a player on the decline

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          @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

          If he's still at his peak the UK money will be very tempting. If he comes back it's more likely to be a player on the decline

          We just don't know in ilght of C19 though. The money may disappear, and then if the differential is lower, where would you choose to ride out the plague? NZ is paradise - and we should be reminding people of that ...

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

            @Bovidae

            What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

            IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
            Safe hands in the lineout though.
            I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
            I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

            Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

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            @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

            @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

            @Bovidae

            What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

            IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
            Safe hands in the lineout though.
            I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
            I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

            Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

            Just some bum...

            https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1237741315208740865

            alt text

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            • DiceD Dice

              @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

              @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

              @Bovidae

              What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

              IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
              Safe hands in the lineout though.
              I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
              I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

              Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

              Just some bum...

              https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1237741315208740865

              alt text

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              @Dice a few Auckland NPC reps in that graphic - Piutau, Hughes, Fa'aso'o and Moala.

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              • DiceD Dice

                @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

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                @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

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                  @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                  @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                  Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                  That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

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                  @junior said in Blues 2020:

                  @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                  @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                  Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                  That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

                  Highly unlikely they'd be able to make their way past Bridge and Fafita though eh.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @junior said in Blues 2020:

                    @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                    @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                    Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                    That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

                    Highly unlikely they'd be able to make their way past Bridge and Fafita though eh.

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                    #1120

                    @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                    @junior said in Blues 2020:

                    @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                    @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                    Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                    That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

                    Highly unlikely they'd be able to make their way past Bridge and Fafita though eh.

                    How could I forget those two mainstays of our successful RWC campaign?

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @junior said in Blues 2020:

                      @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                      @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                      Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                      That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

                      Highly unlikely they'd be able to make their way past Bridge and Fafita though eh.

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                      @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                      @junior said in Blues 2020:

                      @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                      @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                      Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                      That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

                      Highly unlikely they'd be able to make their way past Bridge and Fafita though eh.

                      Depends if Piutau played in the Perth match and Luatua would have been watching Scott Barrett-Hanson from the bench anyway.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                        @junior said in Blues 2020:

                        @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                        @Bones TBH, he's a much better fullback now than when he was here. He was a much better winger than fullback when he was still in NZ.

                        Reminds me of a recent interview that Pat Lam had with Jim Kayes where he said that Eddie Jones told him that if Piutau and Luatua were eligible for England, he'd select both of them for England.

                        That's hardly a surprise - if they were eligible for the ABs they'd both be selected!

                        Highly unlikely they'd be able to make their way past Bridge and Fafita though eh.

                        Depends if Piutau played in the Perth match and Luatua would have been watching Scott Barrett-Hanson from the bench anyway.

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                        @Nepia he's trying to steal your thunder @mariner4life

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Nepia he's trying to steal your thunder @mariner4life

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                          @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                          @Nepia he's trying to steal your thunder @mariner4life

                          I was robbed of a nomination!

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                            @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                            @Nepia he's trying to steal your thunder @mariner4life

                            I was robbed of a nomination!

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                            @Nepia he's trying to steal your thunder @Chris-B

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                            • DiceD Dice

                              @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

                              @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                              @Bovidae

                              What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

                              IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
                              Safe hands in the lineout though.
                              I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
                              I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

                              Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

                              Just some bum...

                              https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1237741315208740865

                              alt text

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                              @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                              @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

                              @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                              @Bovidae

                              What's your point? Are you saying he is too short to play lock? He's done well there before

                              IIRC that was due to his excellent vertical leap. Maybe a bit of athleticism that may have reduced as he has aged?
                              Safe hands in the lineout though.
                              I would have taken him in the RWC squad easily, he's still a very good player with a huge workrate. Has become McCaw like in his running lines to the right place at the right time.
                              I cant see Bristol letting him go easily. He is the glue in that team. (who the fuck is Piutau?)

                              Was arrogant of NZ rugby to think he would be happy to stay here without encouragement. A bit of perserverance with him and he would have locked in the 6 jersey easily IMO.

                              Just some bum...

                              https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1237741315208740865

                              alt text

                              Fair enough. I have to admit I hadn’t seen him play for a while. I must have watched them during a slow patch for him.
                              Glad to see they are getting some value for money

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                              • A African Monkey

                                Michael Jones is in both teams. Swap him out in the 2nd XV with Gus Collins. Was no fan of Lee Stensness but he did more for us than SBW, would also probably have Cashmore ahead of Piutau.

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                                @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                Michael Jones is in both teams. Swap him out in the 2nd XV with Gus Collins. Was no fan of Lee Stensness but he did more for us than SBW, would also probably have Cashmore ahead of Piutau.

                                McDonald was a very good blindside flanker too. Troy Flavell could be at 6 and Royce Willis at 5.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                  Michael Jones is in both teams. Swap him out in the 2nd XV with Gus Collins. Was no fan of Lee Stensness but he did more for us than SBW, would also probably have Cashmore ahead of Piutau.

                                  McDonald was a very good blindside flanker too. Troy Flavell could be at 6 and Royce Willis at 5.

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                                  @cgrant said in Blues 2020:

                                  @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                  Michael Jones is in both teams. Swap him out in the 2nd XV with Gus Collins. Was no fan of Lee Stensness but he did more for us than SBW, would also probably have Cashmore ahead of Piutau.

                                  McDonald was a very good blindside flanker too. Troy Flavell could be at 6 and Royce Willis at 5.

                                  Luatua ahead of Gus McDonald.

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                                    I'll take that Super draw.

                                    Both times we come off the bye to play the Crusaders. That's pretty good considering the comp is going to be brutal.

                                    Can't wait for mid June now ...

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                                      I wonder if they'll have a warm-up game. They can probably have an in-house game.

                                      1 Karl Tuinukuafe
                                      2 James Parsons
                                      3 Sione Mafileo
                                      4 Patrick Tuipulotu
                                      5 Jacob Pierce
                                      6 Tom Robinson
                                      7 Dalton Papali'i
                                      8 Hoskins Sotutu
                                      9 Sam Nock
                                      10 Beauden Barrett:smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:
                                      11 Mark Telea
                                      12 TJ Faiane
                                      13 Rieko Ioane
                                      14 Joe Marchant
                                      15 Stephen Perofeta

                                      vs

                                      1 Alex Hodgman
                                      2 Kurt Eklund
                                      3 Ofa Tuungafasi
                                      4 Josh Goodhue
                                      5 Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                                      6 Tony Lamborn/Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa
                                      7 Blake Gibson
                                      8 Akira Ioane
                                      9 Jonathan Ruru
                                      10 Otere Black
                                      11 Jordan Hyland/AJ Lam
                                      12 Harry Plummer
                                      13 Caleb Clarke?
                                      14 Emoni Narawa
                                      15 Matt Duffie

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                                        I wonder what the plan is for Marchant?

                                        If I remember correctly he was due to go back to the UK in June - but given there's no rugby over there at the moment it might make more sense for him to stay down in NZ and play NZ derbies.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          I wonder what the plan is for Marchant?

                                          If I remember correctly he was due to go back to the UK in June - but given there's no rugby over there at the moment it might make more sense for him to stay down in NZ and play NZ derbies.

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                                          @KiwiMurph https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/121495042/super-rugby-reality-for-blues-england-import-joe-marchant

                                          Marchant is relishing being back at training after individual work during lockdown. His deal ends on July 1 so he is hoping to cram in as much as he can though he admits the non-stop preparation is unusual.

                                          That's enough for 3 last games for us.

                                          Hopefully he can convince Quins to let him finish out the season because our midfield depth isn't that great.

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