World Rugby Board elections
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Who do you think Japan voted for? They would have been one of the swing votes.
Fiji and Samoa voted for Beaumont, and maybe Oceania did too so they might be happy with the status quo and promises made.
Pichot (16 votes)
Argentina (3)
Australia (3)
New Zealand (3)
Canada (1)
United States (1)
Uruguay (1)
South America (2)
Americas North (2)Beaumont (24 votes)
England (3)
France (3)
Ireland (3)
Italy (3)
Scotland (3)
Wales (3)
Georgia (1)
Fiji (1)
Samoa (1)
Romania (1)
Europe (2)Unknown (11 votes)
South Africa (3)
Japan (2)
Africa (2)
Asia (2)
Oceania (2)Beaumont only needed an extra 4 votes so it could have been Japan and Asia that got him over the line.
@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
Who do you think Japan voted for? They would have been one of the swing votes.
Fiji and Samoa voted for Beaumont, and maybe Oceania did too so they might be happy with the status quo and promises made.
Pichot (16 votes)
Argentina (3)
Australia (3)
New Zealand (3)
Canada (1)
United States (1)
Uruguay (1)
South America (2)
Americas North (2)Beaumont (24 votes)
England (3)
France (3)
Ireland (3)
Italy (3)
Scotland (3)
Wales (3)
Georgia (1)
Fiji (1)
Samoa (1)
Romania (1)
Europe (2)Unknown (11 votes)
South Africa (3)
Japan (2)
Africa (2)
Asia (2)
Oceania (2)Beaumont only needed an extra 4 votes so it could have been Japan and Asia that got him over the line.
28-23
Japan voted Beaumont.
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@Chris-B said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Bovidae If Beaumont ended up with 28 votes, then maths tells us SA must have voted for Gus. And you'd imagine the Sanzar countries would have voted as a bloc.
So, Bill got two of the remaining 4.
I guess if you see England playing a test against Tonga....
I think Oceania voted Gus. Tonga don't have a vote.
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@Chris-B said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Bovidae If Beaumont ended up with 28 votes, then maths tells us SA must have voted for Gus. And you'd imagine the Sanzar countries would have voted as a bloc.
I agree. The question is whether Africa voted with SA and if Oceania followed Fiji and Samoa or NZ and Aust.
Google says that the Asia rep is Ada Milby from the Philippines, the Oceania rep is Richard Sapias from PNG, and the Africa rep is Abdelaziz Bougja from Morocco.
@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Chris-B said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Bovidae If Beaumont ended up with 28 votes, then maths tells us SA must have voted for Gus. And you'd imagine the Sanzar countries would have voted as a bloc.
I agree. The question is whether Africa voted with SA and if Oceania followed Fiji and Samoa or NZ and Aust.
Google says that the Asia rep is Ada Milby from the Philippines, the Oceania rep is Richard Sapias from PNG, and the Africa rep is Abdelaziz Bougja from Morocco.
See post above. Oceania voted Gus
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
Who do you think Japan voted for? They would have been one of the swing votes.
Fiji and Samoa voted for Beaumont, and maybe Oceania did too so they might be happy with the status quo and promises made.
Pichot (16 votes)
Argentina (3)
Australia (3)
New Zealand (3)
Canada (1)
United States (1)
Uruguay (1)
South America (2)
Americas North (2)Beaumont (24 votes)
England (3)
France (3)
Ireland (3)
Italy (3)
Scotland (3)
Wales (3)
Georgia (1)
Fiji (1)
Samoa (1)
Romania (1)
Europe (2)Unknown (11 votes)
South Africa (3)
Japan (2)
Africa (2)
Asia (2)
Oceania (2)Beaumont only needed an extra 4 votes so it could have been Japan and Asia that got him over the line.
28-23
Japan voted Beaumont.
Then fuck them too. Probably pay back for the SWs and the SANZAAR missed opportunity to extend the RC competition and bring both Japan and Fiji into the tent - those two votes would probably make the SANZAR bloc as strong as the 6N.
Another missed opportunity.
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Chris-B said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Bovidae If Beaumont ended up with 28 votes, then maths tells us SA must have voted for Gus. And you'd imagine the Sanzar countries would have voted as a bloc.
I agree. The question is whether Africa voted with SA and if Oceania followed Fiji and Samoa or NZ and Aust.
Google says that the Asia rep is Ada Milby from the Philippines, the Oceania rep is Richard Sapias from PNG, and the Africa rep is Abdelaziz Bougja from Morocco.
See post above. Oceania voted Gus
@booboo So you reckon Asia and Japan voted for Beaumont?
NZR's statement:
NZR Chair, Brent Impey said: “We have a great respect for Bill Beaumont as an individual, and we look forward to continuing to work with him to grow the game globally and keep rugby sustainable across all borders. “We are of course disappointed for Agustin Pichot as he had our vote, and it is important to us that whoever won the election will heed the calls for change to the game. “Gus ran a strong campaign and gave his best effort in a highly principled manner and that is all that can be asked, so we are proud of him. “There is still a level of governance reform that is overdue, and it would be good to see the courage taken to make the decisions needed to ensure the continued sustainability and success of rugby globally – not just for a limited number of Unions and regions.” -
@booboo So you reckon Asia and Japan voted for Beaumont?
NZR's statement:
NZR Chair, Brent Impey said: “We have a great respect for Bill Beaumont as an individual, and we look forward to continuing to work with him to grow the game globally and keep rugby sustainable across all borders. “We are of course disappointed for Agustin Pichot as he had our vote, and it is important to us that whoever won the election will heed the calls for change to the game. “Gus ran a strong campaign and gave his best effort in a highly principled manner and that is all that can be asked, so we are proud of him. “There is still a level of governance reform that is overdue, and it would be good to see the courage taken to make the decisions needed to ensure the continued sustainability and success of rugby globally – not just for a limited number of Unions and regions.”Sources close to Pichot believed the vote was as close as 24-23 in Beaumont’s favour when Japan and Rugby Africa were yet to declare their intentions, but both have backed the incumbent. -
@booboo So you reckon Asia and Japan voted for Beaumont?
NZR's statement:
NZR Chair, Brent Impey said: “We have a great respect for Bill Beaumont as an individual, and we look forward to continuing to work with him to grow the game globally and keep rugby sustainable across all borders. “We are of course disappointed for Agustin Pichot as he had our vote, and it is important to us that whoever won the election will heed the calls for change to the game. “Gus ran a strong campaign and gave his best effort in a highly principled manner and that is all that can be asked, so we are proud of him. “There is still a level of governance reform that is overdue, and it would be good to see the courage taken to make the decisions needed to ensure the continued sustainability and success of rugby globally – not just for a limited number of Unions and regions.”@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
@booboo So you reckon Asia and Japan voted for Beaumont?
NZR's statement:
NZR Chair, Brent Impey said: “We have a great respect for Bill Beaumont as an individual, and we look forward to continuing to work with him to grow the game globally and keep rugby sustainable across all borders. “We are of course disappointed for Agustin Pichot as he had our vote, and it is important to us that whoever won the election will heed the calls for change to the game. “Gus ran a strong campaign and gave his best effort in a highly principled manner and that is all that can be asked, so we are proud of him. **“There is still a level of governance reform that is overdue, and it would be good to see the courage taken to make the decisions needed to ensure the continued sustainability and success of rugby globally – not just for a limited number of Unions and regions.”**Think Asia voted Gus.
Chris Jones talking to Devlin just after 12 said:
- PIs (Fiji, Samoa and Oceania) split their votes 2-2
- Asia (Japan and Asia) split their votes 2-2
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@booboo So you reckon Asia and Japan voted for Beaumont?
NZR's statement:
NZR Chair, Brent Impey said: “We have a great respect for Bill Beaumont as an individual, and we look forward to continuing to work with him to grow the game globally and keep rugby sustainable across all borders. “We are of course disappointed for Agustin Pichot as he had our vote, and it is important to us that whoever won the election will heed the calls for change to the game. “Gus ran a strong campaign and gave his best effort in a highly principled manner and that is all that can be asked, so we are proud of him. “There is still a level of governance reform that is overdue, and it would be good to see the courage taken to make the decisions needed to ensure the continued sustainability and success of rugby globally – not just for a limited number of Unions and regions.” -
@Chris-B said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Bovidae If Beaumont ended up with 28 votes, then maths tells us SA must have voted for Gus. And you'd imagine the Sanzar countries would have voted as a bloc.
So, Bill got two of the remaining 4.
I guess if you see England playing a test against Tonga....
I think Oceania voted Gus. Tonga don't have a vote.
@booboo said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Chris-B said in World Rugby Board elections:
@Bovidae If Beaumont ended up with 28 votes, then maths tells us SA must have voted for Gus. And you'd imagine the Sanzar countries would have voted as a bloc.
So, Bill got two of the remaining 4.
I guess if you see England playing a test against Tonga....
I think Oceania voted Gus. Tonga don't have a vote.
Yeah - my England game against Tonga would be pay-off for the Oceania vote.
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SA site seems to show who exactly voted for whom. Many regions did the spineless thing where the country voted one and the region voted the other to stay neutral. In the end, the 6n block being bigger than 4n won it for the old guard. Pichot actually got 1 more vote when the two blocks are omitted
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/who-voted-for-whom-in-battle-for-world-rugby-top-job-20200502
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
The graphic from the article. Some of the tier 2 nations didn't vote as expected.
What is Norteamerica if it's not US and Canada and why did they split their votes?
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
The graphic from the article. Some of the tier 2 nations didn't vote as expected.
What is Norteamerica if it's not US and Canada and why did they split their votes?
@booboo said in World Rugby Board elections:
What is Norteamerica if it's not US and Canada and why did they split their votes?
Weird ay? The US and Canada are already there. So that leaves Mexico and the Caribbean for North America as I know it.
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:
The graphic from the article. Some of the tier 2 nations didn't vote as expected.
What is Norteamerica if it's not US and Canada and why did they split their votes?
@booboo said in World Rugby Board elections:
What is Norteamerica if it's not US and Canada and why did they split their votes?
Dennis Dwyer is the man in question. Dwyer, originally from Yorkshire, has lived and refereed and administered rugby in Bermuda for 40 years.
Rugby Americas North (RAN), the grouping of the USA and Canada (who have an extra vote each), Mexico and 17 other countries in and around the Caribbean.
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Atleast the world nations championship is back on the cards with a draft already been proposed.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/report-12-team-world-nations-championship/
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I like the money we can get from a Nations League but nothing else. I'm always up for a big test - this won't add anything to me. If anything it devalues regular tests.
I also think there are genuine concerns about player welfare.
