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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Welly backs?

    Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

    Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

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    @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Welly backs?

    Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

    Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

    Yeah top try scorer in Premiership, two times! Pretty impressive for a forward.

    Or an indictment on the general type of rugby in the NH

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

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      Nepia
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      #1801

      @Bones said in NH club rugby:

      @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

      Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Bones said in NH club rugby:

        @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

        Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

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        @Nepia said in NH club rugby:

        @Bones said in NH club rugby:

        @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

        Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

        More about his professionalism and leadership than play, imo

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        • M Machpants

          @Nepia said in NH club rugby:

          @Bones said in NH club rugby:

          @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

          Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

          More about his professionalism and leadership than play, imo

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          Nepia
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          @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

          @Nepia said in NH club rugby:

          @Bones said in NH club rugby:

          @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

          Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

          More about his professionalism and leadership than play, imo

          Fair enough, although my mate who went to most of their games said he was pretty class on the field too.

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            Tim
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            #1804

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300002513/exall-black-simon-mannix-warns-french-pay-days-numbered

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Bones said in NH club rugby:

              @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

              Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

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              Bones
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              @Nepia I was only thinking EP.

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              • TimT Tim

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300002513/exall-black-simon-mannix-warns-french-pay-days-numbered

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                Rapido
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                #1806

                @Tim said in NH club rugby:

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300002513/exall-black-simon-mannix-warns-french-pay-days-numbered

                I really hope the NZRU don't let this crisis go to waste.

                Opportunity to set up a low cost domestic professional competition with minimal overseas 'luring' - maybe for a few years, maybe longer.

                Every rugby body facing a crisis of reduced advertising, TV revenues, travel restrictions, social distancing, restrictions on events. Except 90% have been doing this on extend and pretend. Roosters coming home to roost, maybe, IMO. a quarter of English Premiership clubs won't survive this. Although, god knows what realistic state the Top 14 is in and what may happen in France behind the 'impenetrable wall' of a foreign language. Some like the Racing Capri-Sun guy are genuinely rich .....

                Only body with $100m reserves is the NZRU.

                Could take the 1996 approach when first year S12 were only paying max $60k. (Obviously inflate that for inflation)

                Set up a sustainable competition, with no rotation and AB selector interference, that fans (hopefully) care about.

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                • M Machpants

                  @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                  @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

                  @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                  @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

                  Welly backs?

                  Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

                  Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

                  Yeah top try scorer in Premiership, two times! Pretty impressive for a forward.

                  Or an indictment on the general type of rugby in the NH

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                  Catogrande
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                  #1807

                  @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

                  @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                  @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

                  @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                  @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

                  Welly backs?

                  Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

                  Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

                  Yeah top try scorer in Premiership, two times! Pretty impressive for a forward.

                  Or an indictment on the general type of rugby in the NH

                  His ability to be in the right place at the right time was uncanny. I generally dislike the term intelligent player because it seems somehow disparaging to both that player and all the others at the same time. But it really does suit Thomas the Tank.

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                    Stargazer
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                    #1808

                    Julian Savea is coming home. He's still thinking about what he's going to do.
                    Looking for another contract (in NZ or somewhere else; the Warriors?) or .. retire from rugby?

                    https://www.instagram.com/p/CAHoD3EoKrW/

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Julian Savea is coming home. He's still thinking about what he's going to do.
                      Looking for another contract (in NZ or somewhere else; the Warriors?) or .. retire from rugby?

                      https://www.instagram.com/p/CAHoD3EoKrW/

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                      sparky
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                      #1809

                      @Stargazer If he started training properly again, Julian Savea would be a decent signing for a NPC team for later in the year.

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

                        @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                        @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

                        @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                        @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

                        Welly backs?

                        Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

                        Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

                        Yeah top try scorer in Premiership, two times! Pretty impressive for a forward.

                        Or an indictment on the general type of rugby in the NH

                        His ability to be in the right place at the right time was uncanny. I generally dislike the term intelligent player because it seems somehow disparaging to both that player and all the others at the same time. But it really does suit Thomas the Tank.

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                        MiketheSnow
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                        #1810

                        @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                        @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

                        @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                        @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

                        @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                        @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

                        Welly backs?

                        Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

                        Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

                        Yeah top try scorer in Premiership, two times! Pretty impressive for a forward.

                        Or an indictment on the general type of rugby in the NH

                        His ability to be in the right place at the right time was uncanny. I generally dislike the term intelligent player because it seems somehow disparaging to both that player and all the others at the same time. But it really does suit Thomas the Tank.

                        Like Deano before him

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                          Machpants
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                          #1811

                          A fairly sizeable wodge

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/premiership-clubs-lost-a-collective-88-7million-in-the-two-years-before-cvc-buy-in/

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                            Stargazer
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                            #1812

                            Interesting to read what Slade has to say about the difference between Top 14 and Super Rugby.

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/you-can-play-up-to-32-games-a-year-and-its-just-mental-colin-slade-explains-why-the-top-14-is-on-another-level-to-super-rugby/

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                              Catogrande
                              wrote on last edited by Catogrande
                              #1813

                              @Stargazer

                              Starts off with a great quote: “I wasn’t there before we arrived”. Classic! Interesting read though.

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                                Bones
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                                #1814

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lucas-brooke-son-of-zinzan-is-qualified-for-england/

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lucas-brooke-son-of-zinzan-is-qualified-for-england/

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                                  Margin_Walker
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                                  #1815

                                  @Bones

                                  Some highlights. Seen him play a few times at hooker for Wellington College (not that one) and backrow for London Irish. Plays like the highlights. Big hits and some abrasive carrying in the tight, but generally unflashy. Not sure about his drop goal game.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lucas-brooke-son-of-zinzan-is-qualified-for-england/

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                                    Nepia
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                                    #1816

                                    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lucas-brooke-son-of-zinzan-is-qualified-for-england/

                                    Headline should read: ZInzan Brooke fails as a father.

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                                      Wurzel
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                                      #1817

                                      He's got an oversized melon-head like his old man.

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                                        @Bones

                                        Some highlights. Seen him play a few times at hooker for Wellington College (not that one) and backrow for London Irish. Plays like the highlights. Big hits and some abrasive carrying in the tight, but generally unflashy. Not sure about his drop goal game.

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                                        Bones
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1818

                                        @Margin_Walker cheers. Solid looking player

                                        I have to say highlight reels are starting to have a different meaning. Some of the "highlights" of him running the ball up with the effectiveness of Owen Franks could possibly be removed.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Margin_Walker cheers. Solid looking player

                                          I have to say highlight reels are starting to have a different meaning. Some of the "highlights" of him running the ball up with the effectiveness of Owen Franks could possibly be removed.

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                                          Margin_Walker
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                                          #1819

                                          @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                                          @Margin_Walker cheers. Solid looking player

                                          I have to say highlight reels are starting to have a different meaning. Some of the "highlights" of him running the ball up with the effectiveness of Ben Franks could possibly be removed.

                                          Fixed that for you.

                                          I don't think the All Blacks are missing out too much here. Not much about him screams future superstar at the moment and he's not troubled the England age grade selectors so far. You never know though.

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