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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Canes4life There was a rumour on here about Jones going there.

    wouldn't want to get stuck behind Akira and Hoskins, would ya?

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    @nzzp Isn't Jones a openside flanker?

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      @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

      That should also mean Clarke back to the Blues, Nanai-Seturo to the Chiefs and Rayasi to the Canes.

      Ah, makes sense. The olympics is cooked, so we'll get them back.

      Just checked the squad - we get Niko Jones as well I assume?

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      @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2020:

      Just checked the squad - we get Niko Jones as well I assume?

      He isn't a full Blues squad member though. A sevens contract and being involved with the NZ U20s was probably his lot this season.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @nzzp Isn't Jones a openside flanker?

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        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

        @nzzp Isn't Jones a openside flanker?

        had to go digging!

        Jones, a hard running No 8 with a skill set to match, was awarded the MVP for the boy's tournament

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/106944034/michael-jones-son-niko-leads-st-peters-to-first-xv-title

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

          @nzzp Isn't Jones a openside flanker?

          had to go digging!

          Jones, a hard running No 8 with a skill set to match, was awarded the MVP for the boy's tournament

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/106944034/michael-jones-son-niko-leads-st-peters-to-first-xv-title

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          @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

            @nzzp Isn't Jones a openside flanker?

            had to go digging!

            Jones, a hard running No 8 with a skill set to match, was awarded the MVP for the boy's tournament

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/106944034/michael-jones-son-niko-leads-st-peters-to-first-xv-title

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            @nzzp I found this:

            Blues U20

            7 Niko Jones – Auckland

            https://blues.rugby/ganellen-u20s-v-hurricanes/

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

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              @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

              @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

              and then on to 6 as he gets older

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

                and then on to 6 as he gets older

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                @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2020:

                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

                and then on to 6 as he gets older

                no toeing the ball ahead against Argentina

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Canes4life

                  Selected Auckland over Canterbury

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/108822875/niko-jones-reveals-he-has-signed-for-auckland-on-a-twoyear-deal

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                  @nzzp
                  Has he missed his shot at U20s?

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                    So now Julian Savea is looking for a return to either the Hurricanes, another NZ franchise or at the very least the Warriors apparently.

                    I hope the Canes don’t go there, he is 4 years past his best and we don’t really need wingers with Salesi Rayasi coming back into the mix.

                    Maybe his best chance is to play for Wellington in the NPC or at the Highlanders where the 2015 WC winning back three can re-connect.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      So now Julian Savea is looking for a return to either the Hurricanes, another NZ franchise or at the very least the Warriors apparently.

                      I hope the Canes don’t go there, he is 4 years past his best and we don’t really need wingers with Salesi Rayasi coming back into the mix.

                      Maybe his best chance is to play for Wellington in the NPC or at the Highlanders where the 2015 WC winning back three can re-connect.

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                      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2020:

                      at the very least the Warriors

                      The Warriors certainly are the very least.

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                        Is Lome Fa'atau coming back too?

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                        • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                          @nzzp
                          Has he missed his shot at U20s?

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                          @mofitzy_ said in Super Rugby 2020:

                          @nzzp
                          Has he missed his shot at U20s?

                          If he or any player turns 20 this year they are out of luck. IIRC the cut-off date is Jan in the year of the tournament.

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                            @mofitzy_ said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            @nzzp
                            Has he missed his shot at U20s?

                            If he or any player turns 20 this year they are out of luck. IIRC the cut-off date is Jan in the year of the tournament.

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                            @Bovidae
                            Shame, could've been a star player based on his HS form.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @mofitzy_ said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              @nzzp
                              Has he missed his shot at U20s?

                              If he or any player turns 20 this year they are out of luck. IIRC the cut-off date is Jan in the year of the tournament.

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                              @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              @mofitzy_ said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              @nzzp
                              Has he missed his shot at U20s?

                              If he or any player turns 20 this year they are out of luck. IIRC the cut-off date is Jan in the year of the tournament.

                              Not sure there will bea n U20 this year anyway

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                              • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                @Bovidae
                                Shame, could've been a star player based on his HS form.

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                                @mofitzy_

                                I was trying to find Niko's exact DOB but no luck.

                                @nzzp Yes, this year's U20 tournament has been cancelled.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  So now Julian Savea is looking for a return to either the Hurricanes, another NZ franchise or at the very least the Warriors apparently.

                                  I hope the Canes don’t go there, he is 4 years past his best and we don’t really need wingers with Salesi Rayasi coming back into the mix.

                                  Maybe his best chance is to play for Wellington in the NPC or at the Highlanders where the 2015 WC winning back three can re-connect.

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                                  @Canes4life Jesus I hope Gats doesn't sign him either. Send all the old Hurricanes backs down south.

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                    @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

                                    and then on to 6 as he gets older

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                                    @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                    @nzzp Even though Niko played no.8 at schoolboy level I don't think he has the size to play there at senior level. I think he'll follow his old man and move to openside.

                                    and then on to 6 as he gets older

                                    As long as he plays on bloody Sundays!

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                                      He has said he will.

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                                        Brodie Retallick, Waisake Naholo, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty among others are back in the country, too, but not expected to suit up. And while not seeking a New Zealand contract until next season, Julian Savea has announced intentions to return from France.

                                        Why can't all players returning from lucrative excursions to the safe havens of home be swiftly ushered into the five franchises to immediately enhance the quality of the derby competition?

                                        As usual money, or in this case insurance, is the bottom line. The Herald understands insurance costs are in the tens of thousands for each player contracted abroad. These agreements can take months to negotiate, even for a 10-week competition.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12331854

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                                          Brodie Retallick, Waisake Naholo, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty among others are back in the country, too, but not expected to suit up. And while not seeking a New Zealand contract until next season, Julian Savea has announced intentions to return from France.

                                          Why can't all players returning from lucrative excursions to the safe havens of home be swiftly ushered into the five franchises to immediately enhance the quality of the derby competition?

                                          As usual money, or in this case insurance, is the bottom line. The Herald understands insurance costs are in the tens of thousands for each player contracted abroad. These agreements can take months to negotiate, even for a 10-week competition.

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12331854

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                                          @Tim IMO there's an upside to those players (except Retallick, who was away on a sabattical, like Whitelock) not playing SR Aotearoa. They are at the end of their career, but they would possibly push new, young players out of the matchday 23. While it would be fun to watch them play again and at least some of them would raise the game of their franchise, their presence might stall the development of the players that we have to rely on in the next few years. These players have had their time, have said their goodbyes; now it's the turn of a new generation.

                                          (can't read the article, because it's "premium")

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