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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    WHY?

    https://twitter.com/NewshubSport/status/1265911682330591237

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    @Stargazer why not?

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      @Stargazer why not?

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      @Canes4life Because the Canes don't need him. He isn't exactly a star player who adds a lot to the squad. I'd prefer a young NZ player who can be developed over a foreigner, who turns 29 before the 2021 season starts.

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        @Stargazer they don't need him? Lam won't be around for the whole comp, Lowe is pretty much always broken and Rayasi wasn't even meant to be in the Canes this year. Apart from Goosen, what other wing options do we have now that Vince Aso is at centre?

        This is professional rugby, obviously the Canes didn't see anyone worthy enough in the NPC so they went for experience off-shore. Their faith has been rewarded with some quality shifts from Van Wyk pre covid so I don't see the big deal in them wanting to extend his stay.

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          Can somebody please remind me why van Wyk was not picked up by any of the Sth African teams playing Super Rugby or the or two taking part in the league that the Cheetahs and Southern Kings play in up north?

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Stargazer they don't need him? Lam won't be around for the whole comp, Lowe is pretty much always broken and Rayasi wasn't even meant to be in the Canes this year. Apart from Goosen, what other wing options do we have now that Vince Aso is at centre?

            This is professional rugby, obviously the Canes didn't see anyone worthy enough in the NPC so they went for experience off-shore. Their faith has been rewarded with some quality shifts from Van Wyk pre covid so I don't see the big deal in them wanting to extend his stay.

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            @Canes4life This article isn't about extending van Wyk's contract for SR Aotearoa only. It says "beyond the 2020 season", so I assume they want him for the 2021 season.

            Also, I'm pretty confident that Billy Proctor, Danny Toala and Chase Tiatia, who are in the 2020 squad, could do a pretty good job on the wing, if they had to, especially the first two. Edited to add your beloved Peter U-J.

            Van Wyk's major shift was against ... the Sunwolves.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Canes4life This article isn't about extending van Wyk's contract for SR Aotearoa only. It says "beyond the 2020 season", so I assume they want him for the 2021 season.

              Also, I'm pretty confident that Billy Proctor, Danny Toala and Chase Tiatia, who are in the 2020 squad, could do a pretty good job on the wing, if they had to, especially the first two. Edited to add your beloved Peter U-J.

              Van Wyk's major shift was against ... the Sunwolves.

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              @Higgins Plumtree swooped because Van Wyk found himself behind the two Springbok wingers at the Sharks. I understand a mix of South African rugby political BS and a fresh change was the reason he packed his bags

              @Stargazer he was strong against both the Chiefs and Blues aswell. If he's good enough to be in the Canes in 2021 then good on him. NZ has lost far too much IP, why not get some back. The rugby landscape is changing and I expect these contracts to come up more frequently to prevent Super Rugby from becoming, well, not so Super. Or are we too late for that already?

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                @Higgins Plumtree swooped because Van Wyk found himself behind the two Springbok wingers at the Sharks. I understand a mix of South African rugby political BS and a fresh change was the reason he packed his bags

                @Stargazer he was strong against both the Chiefs and Blues aswell. If he's good enough to be in the Canes in 2021 then good on him. NZ has lost far too much IP, why not get some back. The rugby landscape is changing and I expect these contracts to come up more frequently to prevent Super Rugby from becoming, well, not so Super. Or are we too late for that already?

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                @Canes4life yea I think it is major downer this whole develop kiwi bullshit. There are 5 wingers in each squad that's 24 kiwi eligible wings. Picking squads on development makes the comp weaker and worse as a spectacle. I love watching foreign players have a crack on super rugby and think we need to see more of it.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  WHY?

                  https://twitter.com/NewshubSport/status/1265911682330591237

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                  @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

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                    @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

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                    @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                    @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                    I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

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                    • M muddyriver

                      @Canes4life yea I think it is major downer this whole develop kiwi bullshit. There are 5 wingers in each squad that's 24 kiwi eligible wings. Picking squads on development makes the comp weaker and worse as a spectacle. I love watching foreign players have a crack on super rugby and think we need to see more of it.

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                      @muddyriver

                      I love watching foreign players have a crack on super rugby and think we need to see more of it.

                      Huge novelty seeing a saffa playing super rugby!

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                        https://www.allblacks.com/news/kobus-van-wyk-feeling-right-at-home-at-the-hurricanes/

                        Looks like he wants to stay for another two years. Also has sights on playing for the Manawatu Turbos having connections with Peter Russell.

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                          #766

                          https://twitter.com/Hurricanesrugby/status/1268701749038071808

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                            I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

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                            @Bones said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                            I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

                            Tima. ? you mean or Leicester or both

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @Bones said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                              I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

                              Tima. ? you mean or Leicester or both

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                              @Chris said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Bones said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                              I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

                              Tima. ? you mean or Leicester or both

                              Guess

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Chris said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Bones said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                                I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

                                Tima. ? you mean or Leicester or both

                                Guess

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                                @Bones said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Chris said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Bones said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Stargazer man he scored 3 tries in that one game that one time, must be good!

                                I'd take him over McKay and Faingaanuku in a heartbeat. Oh and Nabura.

                                Tima. ? you mean or Leicester or both

                                Guess

                                Ok Tima

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                                  #770

                                  https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1269781186093727762

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                                  TEAM PREVIEW: THE HURRICANES

                                  I don't know who writes these previews, but I wholeheartedly disagree with this scenario:

                                  With Du’Plessis Kirifi in strong form in the seven jersey before the Investec Super Rugby season was cut short due to the Covid-19 Pandemic, and Vaea Fifita and Gareth Evans more than capable at blindside flanker, coach Jason Holland has hinted that we may see Savea at the back of the scrum during the New Zealand-only competition.
                                  

                                  Flanders at 6 and Evans at 7, if Holland goes for Ardie at 8. Kirifi on the bench for me.
                                  I prefer Ardie at 7 though, with Evans at 8.

                                  Fifita can book a ticket to Timbuktu.

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                                    Agreed, Fifita can take a hike.

                                    Big call coming from me but I would start Ardie off the bench for the first game and reward the Flanders, Kirifi and Evans combo for being so bloody good before lockdown, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to ease Savea back into it considering how brutal this comp is going to be.

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                                    • M muddyriver

                                      @Canes4life yea I think it is major downer this whole develop kiwi bullshit. There are 5 wingers in each squad that's 24 kiwi eligible wings. Picking squads on development makes the comp weaker and worse as a spectacle. I love watching foreign players have a crack on super rugby and think we need to see more of it.

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                                      mikey07
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                                      @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1269781186093727762

                                        .

                                        TEAM PREVIEW: THE HURRICANES

                                        I don't know who writes these previews, but I wholeheartedly disagree with this scenario:

                                        With Du’Plessis Kirifi in strong form in the seven jersey before the Investec Super Rugby season was cut short due to the Covid-19 Pandemic, and Vaea Fifita and Gareth Evans more than capable at blindside flanker, coach Jason Holland has hinted that we may see Savea at the back of the scrum during the New Zealand-only competition.
                                        

                                        Flanders at 6 and Evans at 7, if Holland goes for Ardie at 8. Kirifi on the bench for me.
                                        I prefer Ardie at 7 though, with Evans at 8.

                                        Fifita can book a ticket to Timbuktu.

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                                        Winger
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                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                        Flanders at 6 and Evans at 7, if Holland goes for Ardie at 8. Kirifi on the bench for me.
                                        I prefer Ardie at 7 though, with Evans at 8.

                                        Is Evans really a 7?

                                        My view it depends on the opposition. Kirifi was in great form before it stopped but with Ardie at 8 its a short 7/8 combo. So a good taller lineout jumper is needed. Fifita is excellent in this respect but he needs more discipline. Maybe Kirifi, Ardie and Flanders in some games to try as a combo.

                                        Last year Shields was thrashed and lost his effectiveness so hopefully they rotate players this year.

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                                          @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

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                                          @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

                                          Hopefully things will work out ok this year, Lots fo promsie at LH and a VG number one TH. And as long as Fidow stay injury free he should be fine as a replacement

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