2020 New Zealand U20s
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The NZU20s may get better coaching this way, but they also need better selectors.
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I hope the German panzer tank gets selected. It’s kind of Hollywood movie stuff if he ends up playing for NZ.
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@Billy-Tell In case you mean Anton Segner, he's not eligible for NZU20 this year.
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@Stargazer said in 2020 New Zealand U20s:
@Billy-Tell In case you mean Anton Segner, he's not eligible for NZU20 this year.
Why not?
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@Billy-Tell IIRC it's because the residency requirement only starts to run once a player leaves school (unless his family lives here, too, but that's not the case). He was still at school in 2019.
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Philpott's comments about having better kicking to play a territorial game isn't addressing the main problem. As usual, it will come down to whether the NZ tight five are competitive against the NH teams and SA/Aust.
Havila Molia is an interesting addition. He was the captain and TH prop for St Paul's Collegiate last year and I expected him to be in the mix for the NZ Schools teams. A big unit and very mobile.
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From the World Rugby media release of 21 March 2020 (link below)
- The World Rugby U20 Championship 2020, scheduled to be hosted in northern Italy in late June and July, has been cancelled following detailed consultation with the Federazione Italiana Rugby
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An interesting article on allblacks.com today. A few names from 10 years ago that I don't remember at all.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/where-are-they-now-new-zealand-2010-under-20-world-champions/
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Totally missed this announcement 11 days ago. I assume they didn't postpone it, instead of cancel it, for financial reasons?
I feel sorry for all the guys that miss out this year and won't be eligible anymore next year.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/oceania-rugby-under-20s-championships-cancelled/
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@Stargazer said in 2020 New Zealand U20s:
@Bovidae They've had camps though; they have a group of players to select from.
I thought there was a final camp to be held before the final selection?
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@Bovidae Excellent news.
I know he's already been there, done that, but if Scott Robertson is interested, I hope they get him involved again! Leon MacDonald would be good; Tony Brown and Jason Ryan, too.
Keep someone like Hammett away from those young lads.
I'm not a fan of Jason Holland and Aaron Mauger either, but they wouldn't be a disaster like Philpott.
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MacDonald would be a good choice amongst the SR coaches.
If you look at the overall record of the U20 coaches the results have been getting worse:
Rennie (2008-10, 1st, 1st, 1st)
Anscombe (2011, 1st)
Penney (2012, 2nd)
Boyd (2013-14, 4th, 3rd)
Robertson (2015-16, 1st, 5th)
Philpott (2017-19, 1st, 4th, 7th) -
@Bovidae said in 2020 New Zealand U20s:
MacDonald would be a good choice amongst the SR coaches.
If you look at the overall record of the U20 coaches the results have been getting worse:
Rennie (2008-10, 1st, 1st, 1st)
Anscombe (2011, 1st)
Penney (2012, 2nd)
Boyd (2013-14, 4th, 3rd)
Robertson (2015-16, 1st, 5th)
Philpott (2017-19, 1st, 4th, 7th)Ieremia and Tiatia would be worth a look too, have made a massive difference to Auckland and the Blues.
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@Bovidae Not sure you can really say that if you looke at the coaches before Philpott. Boyd never coached a team that became first; Robertson did. Penny and Anscombe only coached them one year; you don't know what would have happened if they'd had another year. Rennie definitely the most successful.
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