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  • DuluthD Duluth

    No Taniela Tele’a in that list. They said recently he was almost back from injury.

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    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    No Taniela Tele’a in that list. They said recently he was almost back from injury.

    And Tamati Tua's been named and he was the one who got called into the team for Telea earlier in the year. Hopefully that doesn't mean Telea won't come back, because once Marchant is done, he's really our only centre cover if Rieko gets injured.

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      @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

      No Taniela Tele’a in that list. They said recently he was almost back from injury.

      And Tamati Tua's been named and he was the one who got called into the team for Telea earlier in the year. Hopefully that doesn't mean Telea won't come back, because once Marchant is done, he's really our only centre cover if Rieko gets injured.

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      @Dice pretty sure I read somewhere Telea had a full shoulder reconstruction. He played the Chiefs pre-season game this year so the surgery would have to have been around Feb/March? Shoulder surgery is what....anywhere between 6-8 months recovery so he probably targeting M10 for a return.

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          After watching the Chiefs forwards perform in their 2012 and 2013 title victories it must be said Tom Coventry’s influence was massive .The resurgence of the Blues’ forwards game I feel has a lot to do with his direction.His ability to select players to fill his requirements for their role is also impressive.Brodie Rettalick,Ben Tameifuna,Karl Tu’nukuafe three he has “found” The Blues can be proud of getting him aboard.

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300033208/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-star-beauden-barrett-lapping-up-the-dan-carter-influence

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              When was the last time the Blues won five in a row?

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                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/marchant-tuipulotu-the-120kg-all-black-casually-clocking-9-4-metres/

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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/marchant-tuipulotu-the-120kg-all-black-casually-clocking-9-4-metres/

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                  @Tim wait, what.... that's 94m in 10 seconds?

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                    @Tim wait, what.... that's 94m in 10 seconds?

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                    @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                    @Tim wait, what.... that's 94m in 10 seconds?

                    Only if he can maintain that speed. He must have great acceleration.

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                      @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                      @Tim wait, what.... that's 94m in 10 seconds?

                      Only if he can maintain that speed. He must have great acceleration.

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                      @Kirwan would think it is more likely once at full flight over a 2 or 3 second shift, be surprising if it was from a standing start.

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                        Well, the TAB reckons we're second favourites to win this thing.

                        I think we're in the mix with Chiefs, and should finish ahead of Landers and Canes. Crusaders are favourites, but not sure the price is right.

                        We haven't really done much yet, there's lots of water under the bridge. Looking good to start though, which is great for a change!

                        OUTRIGHT WINNER-SUPER RUGBY AOTEAROA 2020
                        Crusaders 1.83
                        Blues 4.00
                        Chiefs 5.50
                        Highlanders 10.00
                        Hurricanes 12.00

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                          The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                          RD 2 may answer some questions

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                            The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                            RD 2 may answer some questions

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                            @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                            The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                            RD 2 may answer some questions

                            We don't get ahead our ourselves, don't worry. What we have seen is the team building all over the paddock - defence, cohesion, attack, strategy, skills all improved from last year and the year before. The resilience and grit keeps showing as well, they are not losing their cool and just working hard.

                            I'm proud. Hopefully the boys keep this up, but if they keep playing committed rugby, I'll keep coming back week after week.

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                              @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                              The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                              RD 2 may answer some questions

                              We don't get ahead our ourselves, don't worry. What we have seen is the team building all over the paddock - defence, cohesion, attack, strategy, skills all improved from last year and the year before. The resilience and grit keeps showing as well, they are not losing their cool and just working hard.

                              I'm proud. Hopefully the boys keep this up, but if they keep playing committed rugby, I'll keep coming back week after week.

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                              @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

                              @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                              The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                              RD 2 may answer some questions

                              We don't get ahead our ourselves, don't worry. What we have seen is the team building all over the paddock - defence, cohesion, attack, strategy, skills all improved from last year and the year before. The resilience and grit keeps showing as well, they are not losing their cool and just working hard.

                              I'm proud. Hopefully the boys keep this up, but if they keep playing committed rugby, I'll keep coming back week after week.

                              It is nice to see a Blues fan being proud of their team.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                                RD 2 may answer some questions

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                                @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                                The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                                RD 2 may answer some questions

                                A question for Highlanders fans as well regarding the Chiefs.

                                All we can judge our team on is organisation, not repeating past mistakes, and effort. The players also seem to be enjoying themselves, don't panic when pressure is applied and scramble well when mistakes are made in defence.

                                All you can ask really. It's not all about results, but that awful word "culture". The Blues have turned a corner this year, how successful the season will be is unknown, but at least we are giving ourselves a chance now.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                                  The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                                  RD 2 may answer some questions

                                  A question for Highlanders fans as well regarding the Chiefs.

                                  All we can judge our team on is organisation, not repeating past mistakes, and effort. The players also seem to be enjoying themselves, don't panic when pressure is applied and scramble well when mistakes are made in defence.

                                  All you can ask really. It's not all about results, but that awful word "culture". The Blues have turned a corner this year, how successful the season will be is unknown, but at least we are giving ourselves a chance now.

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                                  @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

                                  @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                                  The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                                  RD 2 may answer some questions

                                  A question for Highlanders fans as well regarding the Chiefs.

                                  All we can judge our team on is organisation, not repeating past mistakes, and effort. The players also seem to be enjoying themselves, don't panic when pressure is applied and scramble well when mistakes are made in defence.

                                  All you can ask really. It's not all about results, but that awful word "culture". The Blues have turned a corner this year, how successful the season will be is unknown, but at least we are giving ourselves a chance now.

                                  You likely lose that game ten times out of ten over the past 5 years. All players would have been amped and reinvigorated for that game so no chance of blaming tiredness etc.

                                  I don't think there is much point at the wonder of the opposition. You won't learn anything from the Crusaders fondling them either.

                                  You travel this weekend to play us I think, if you do the same job to us as you did to Canes, then it is a one-off fist fight between your lot and Canterbury for the five team championship!

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                                    Chiefs historically really step up to play the Blues so i'd be expecting a far different Chiefs outfit this weekend.

                                    Chiefs will have an extra day's rest and are at home and will be desperate.

                                    This weekend will tell a lot as to where this Blues team is at.

                                    Should be a cracker.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                                      The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                                      RD 2 may answer some questions

                                      We don't get ahead our ourselves, don't worry. What we have seen is the team building all over the paddock - defence, cohesion, attack, strategy, skills all improved from last year and the year before. The resilience and grit keeps showing as well, they are not losing their cool and just working hard.

                                      I'm proud. Hopefully the boys keep this up, but if they keep playing committed rugby, I'll keep coming back week after week.

                                      It is nice to see a Blues fan being proud of their team.

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                                      @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                                      @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Chris said in Blues 2020:

                                      The Question for you Blues Fans is How poor were the Canes compared to how good the Blues were.

                                      RD 2 may answer some questions

                                      We don't get ahead our ourselves, don't worry. What we have seen is the team building all over the paddock - defence, cohesion, attack, strategy, skills all improved from last year and the year before. The resilience and grit keeps showing as well, they are not losing their cool and just working hard.

                                      I'm proud. Hopefully the boys keep this up, but if they keep playing committed rugby, I'll keep coming back week after week.

                                      It is nice to see a Blues fan being proud of their team.

                                      it's been a long time since we've been disorganised rabble. The last couple of years have seen big steps forward, but we're still learning.

                                      As @Kirwan said below, it's about the dreaded culture - but the composure in the red zone was noticeably better in the weekend game. They trust their D, trust each other, and aren't forcing things too much.

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                                        I don't understand what problem you guys have with the word "culture". It clearly plays an important role. Would you have less of a problem with the whole concept if you'd call it "team dynamic"?

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                                          my issue with the dreaded "culture" is the way it is massively overblown as a reason for success or failure. Good teams win because of their culture. Bad teams lose because of their culture.

                                          In all reality, good teams win because they have well coached talent. Bad teams lose because they lack talent or good coaching.

                                          The Blues won yesterday because they had across the park talent, and MacDonald had them all pointing in the same direction. The Canes had less talent, and didn't have a plan to exploit what they had.

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