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NZ v Australia Test #1

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    SammyC
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    #409

    Earthquake was very minor compared to previous ones. No doubt the cricket is going ahead.<br><br>
    I have tickets for all 5 days. My major concern is that the test will finish inside 4 days and I'll have to go back to work a day early.

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    • taniwharugbyT Offline
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      #410

      <p>as a groundsman, why would you prepare a picth that is supposedly so hard to bat on for the 1st few hours of play that then pretty much flattens out and offers f-all, which then makes the winning or losing of the coin toss actually quite important.</p>

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      • NTAN Offline
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        #411

        <p>As a groundsman, why the hell would you prepare that pitch when you KNOW your home captain is incapable of winning the toss?</p>

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        • GunnerG Offline
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          #412

          Pretty fecking disappointing after all the pre match build up/hype/expectation (is this a Warriors thread?).<br><br>
          I don't think there will be any major changes, it's a pretty settled team who have done well over the last 18 months, so they'll get an opportunity to redeem themselves.<br><br>
          I agree with the call to give Henry a run. Bracewell & Wagner have had their chances with mixed success, so I think the time is right (while he's in good form) to bring Henry in and see what he can do.<br><br>
          IMO Corey is safe for now as there are no fit alternatives.<br><br>
          Kane will be furious with himself, so I'm sure he'll be extra motivated to do well in Chch.<br><br>
          BMac surely can't go out with a whimper...... can he????<br><br>
          And bloody BJ is waaaaaaay overdue.

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          • F Offline
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            #413

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="558880" data-time="1455528585">
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            <p>
            BMac surely can't go out with a whimper...... can he????<br>
             </p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Oh he is more than capable.</p>

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            • MN5M Offline
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              MN5
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              #414

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="558880" data-time="1455528585">
              <div>
              <p>Pretty fecking disappointing after all the pre match build up/hype/expectation (is this a Warriors thread?).<br><br>
              I don't think there will be any major changes, it's a pretty settled team who have done well over the last 18 months, so they'll get an opportunity to redeem themselves.<br><br>
              I agree with the call to give Henry a run. Bracewell & Wagner have had their chances with mixed success, so I think the time is right (while he's in good form) to bring Henry in and see what he can do.<br><br>
              IMO Corey is safe for now as there are no fit alternatives.<br><br>
              Kane will be furious with himself, so I'm sure he'll be extra motivated to do well in Chch.<br><br>
              BMac surely can't go out with a whimper...... can he????<br><br>
              And bloody <strong>BJ is waaaaaaay overdue.</strong></p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p>Even though it was Valentines Day yesterday ? stink dude.......</p>

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              • boobooB Offline
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                booboo
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                #415

                Taylot and Santner still out of 2nd test :(<br><br>
                So realistically only change is Henry or Wagner in for Braces. <br><br>
                Which makes sfa difference to our batting.

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                • boobooB Offline
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                  #416

                  Btw i live Wags. But Braces ain't done much wrong.<br><br>
                  Can't drop Herb coz allrounder. And who else bats?<br><br>
                  Sodhi maybe? But our batting was ceap. Sodhi = bowler not batsman. So how do we fix batting ?

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                  • boobooB Offline
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                    #417

                    P.S. shiraz 🙂

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                    • gollumG Offline
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                      gollum
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                      #418

                      <p>Realistically its the same story re our batting. Against the top teams its Kane or Ross to go big with Watling supporting. And Ross is out & Watling is having a pause in his batting before he coasts to 15 test tons.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>So its Kane. By himself.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Also I'd be tempted to bat Craig at 6. People bitch about his bowling (rightly) but given our quality in batting we could do worse than play him as a batting part timer. Anderson is a test 7 or even 8, not a 6.   </p>

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                      • canefanC Away
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                        canefan
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                        #419

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="558892" data-time="1455535116">
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                        <p> </p>
                        Anderson is a test 7 or even 8, not a 6.   </div>
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                        <p>Neesh is far superior with the bat in tests.  Sadly he's crocked too</p>

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                        • SiamS Offline
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                          Siam
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                          #420

                          <p>Has Watling been playing any cricket lately?</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Looks stale as and has been getting out outside off for months now</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>edit: form this year, </p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>4c/0s, <strong>47* </strong>       Northern D v Canterbury <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/444258.html'>Mount Maunganui</a> 20 Jan 2016 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917619.html'>LA</a></p>
                          <p><strong>6</strong>, 1c/0s               Northern D v Otago <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/58827.html'>Dunedin</a> 17 Jan 2016 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917613.html'>LA</a></p>
                          <p>1c/0s              Northern D v Central D <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/441704.html'>Whangarei</a> 13 Jan 2016 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917607.html'>LA</a> </p>
                          <p><strong>56 </strong>                  Northern D v Otago <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/441704.html'>Whangarei</a> 10 Jan 2016 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917605.html'>LA</a></p>
                          <p>1c/0s, <strong>26 </strong>       Northern D v Central D <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/58865.html'>New Plymouth</a> 6 Jan 2016 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917595.html'>LA</a></p>
                          <p><strong>39</strong>, 2c/0s         Northern D v Auckland <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/58793.html'>Auckland</a> 3 Jan 2016 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917589.html'>LA</a></p>
                          <p>1c/0s, <strong>21</strong>         Northern D v Auckland <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/ground/58831.html'>Hamilton</a> 30 Dec 2015 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/engine/match/917583.html'>LA</a></p>

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                          • gollumG Offline
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                            #421

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="558895" data-time="1455535960">
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                            <p>Neesh is far superior with the bat in tests.  Sadly he's crocked too</p>
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                            <p> </p>
                            <p>He's not a test 6 either tho'.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>And yes, he's permanantly broken</p>

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                            • canefanC Away
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                              canefan
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                              #422

                              Like Jacob Oram broken

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                              • gollumG Offline
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                                gollum
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                                #423

                                <p>Easy to forget just how good Oram was. He was a fricking excellent 6 for us, just never fit.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>His 3 top scores - tons v SA <em><strong>twice</strong></em> & Aussie. No minnow bashing there.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>And not shihouse SA either, Steyn Pollock Kallis Ntini SA...</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>I'd almost rank him with Bond in terms of "if only he could have been fit for a while"</p>

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                                  #424

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="558873" data-time="1455525333">
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                                  <p>As a groundsman, why the hell would you prepare that pitch when you KNOW your home captain is incapable of winning the toss?</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Just my theory,</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>I suspect against Australia , the temptation  of   getting into a wining position on day 1 was worth the gamble of a supposed  50-50 toin coss , </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>On an even money wicket , Australia  holds the advantage anyway </p>

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                                  • GunnerG Offline
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                                    Gunner
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                                    #425

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="558886" data-time="1455533199"><p>
                                    Even though it was Valentines Day yesterday ? stink dude.......</p></blockquote>Tell me about it.<br>
                                    With a 10 week old Gunner Jnr in the house, the odds were never in my favour.

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                                      canefan
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                                      #426

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="558908" data-time="1455542541"><p>Easy to forget just how good Oram was. He was a fricking excellent 6 for us, just never fit.<br>
                                       <br>
                                      His 3 top scores - tons v SA <em><strong>twice</strong></em> & Aussie. No minnow bashing there.<br>
                                       <br>
                                      And not shihouse SA either, Steyn Pollock Kallis Ntini SA...<br>
                                       <br>
                                      I'd almost rank him with Bond in terms of "if only he could have been fit for a while"</p></blockquote>I was at Eden Park when he and Cairns scored centuries vs SA. What a great day

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                                        hydro11
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                                        #427

                                        <p>Anderson is definitely a better batsman than Craig. Craig has relied on not outs for his average. Anderson can bat at number 6, he just has to contribute with the ball. He is not one of the 6 best batsmen in New Zealand.</p>

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                                        • MN5M Offline
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                                          MN5
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                                          #428

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="558918" data-time="1455559244">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Tell me about it.<br>
                                          With a 10 week old Gunner Jnr in the house, the odds were never in my favour.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>That's the time you put them somewhere where you can't hear them and bank on the fact their immobility will mean they stay in the same place for at least a minute or two which should be all you need.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I'm banking on the Caps to come back far stronger as is often the case with them, whether it's enough to even threaten a win is another story but they will show more guts and the aforementioned top order will do better.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I'm not sure if the Neesh is quite at Oram levels of brokenness is he ? As a like for like replacement of Anderson he is very appealing.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I'm also curious as to the reasons why people think he's not a test six. two tons in a brief career would indicate otherwise.</p>

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