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    From the article on the All Blacks website about BB going to Japan:

    “Our focus is fully on the current campaign but we have plans for next year without Beaudy. He will be a big loss but that is countered with what he is doing on and off the field this year, and that we get him for two more years.

    “We have Otere Black playing terrific rugby, and Harry Plummer who has been coming off the bench, while we will have Stephen Perofeta back next season from injury.”

    I thought he'd be available later in the SRA season, but this seems to suggest he's out for the entire season. Or am I reading too much into this?

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      From the article on the All Blacks website about BB going to Japan:

      “Our focus is fully on the current campaign but we have plans for next year without Beaudy. He will be a big loss but that is countered with what he is doing on and off the field this year, and that we get him for two more years.

      “We have Otere Black playing terrific rugby, and Harry Plummer who has been coming off the bench, while we will have Stephen Perofeta back next season from injury.”

      I thought he'd be available later in the SRA season, but this seems to suggest he's out for the entire season. Or am I reading too much into this?

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      KiwiMurph
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      @Stargazer said in Blues 2020:

      From the article on the All Blacks website about BB going to Japan:

      “Our focus is fully on the current campaign but we have plans for next year without Beaudy. He will be a big loss but that is countered with what he is doing on and off the field this year, and that we get him for two more years.

      “We have Otere Black playing terrific rugby, and Harry Plummer who has been coming off the bench, while we will have Stephen Perofeta back next season from injury.”

      I thought he'd be available later in the SRA season, but this seems to suggest he's out for the entire season. Or am I reading too much into this?

      He's out for the SRA season. Was replaced by Dan Carter.

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        I wonder if Blues are eyeing up Zarn Sullivan to take Beady's spot in the 2021 Blues squad.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          I wonder if Blues are eyeing up Zarn Sullivan to take Beady's spot in the 2021 Blues squad.

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          @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

          I wonder if Blues are eyeing up Zarn Sullivan to take Beady's spot in the 2021 Blues squad.

          That makes sense. He has plenty of potential. Hopefully he gets a few starts for Auckland.
          He looks like a player that could spend some time at fullback too?

          There's still Heighton and Page. Maybe Carter will extend his time at the Blues?

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/122022760/beauden-barrett-confirms-his-japan-sabbatical-blues-adamant-its-no-surprise

            “It was [no surprise],” MacDonald told Stuff. “We knew last year this clause and this option were there and we expected it to happen. We’ve been planning for 2021 without him, hence having a lot of young 10s there and having guys like Dan Carter around to help build our depth.
            
            “We’ve invested in Harry Plummer, Stephen Perofeta and Otere Black. We feel comfortable we’ve got our bases covered pretty well. It also played a part in our selection around keeping Otes at 10 and Beaudy coming in at fullback, knowing the big picture as well.
            
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              The BB contract is weird. He had a 'break', then return to SR, then presumably play tests then a Japan 'sabbatical'?

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                That also explains why Black has been playing 10. Seems to be well handled by all involved.

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                  Wonder who moves into Beauden’s house while he’s away.Brotherly love,and all that!

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    I wonder if Blues are eyeing up Zarn Sullivan to take Beady's spot in the 2021 Blues squad.

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                    @KiwiMurph yea I reckon Zarn will be a fully fledged, card carrying Blues player next year. Be interesting to see what happens at M10 level for Auckland. Zarns emergence and the signing of Simon Hickey might see Plummer considering his M10 options.

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                      @KiwiMurph yea I reckon Zarn will be a fully fledged, card carrying Blues player next year. Be interesting to see what happens at M10 level for Auckland. Zarns emergence and the signing of Simon Hickey might see Plummer considering his M10 options.

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                      @Nogusta Perhaps Counties for Plummer - link up with Tai Lavea.

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                        I think Plummer is a midfielder who can cover 10 now.

                        MacDonald made comments recently about his frame being suited to midfield etc

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                          @KiwiMurph yea I reckon Zarn will be a fully fledged, card carrying Blues player next year. Be interesting to see what happens at M10 level for Auckland. Zarns emergence and the signing of Simon Hickey might see Plummer considering his M10 options.

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                          @Nogusta I'd be suprised if Plummer was let go just like that but you seem to be hinting that he's leaving haha. Don't see the need to sign Hickey tbh.

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                            @Nogusta I'd be suprised if Plummer was let go just like that but you seem to be hinting that he's leaving haha. Don't see the need to sign Hickey tbh.

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                            @African-Monkey I think Plummer is still first choice until the other options can prove they're better than him.

                            Hickey should be treated as the 3rd option IMO.

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              That also explains why Black has been playing 10. Seems to be well handled by all involved.

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                              @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

                              That also explains why Black has been playing 10. Seems to be well handled by all involved.

                              Yep for sure , the void at 15 will be far easier to fill than if they structured things around him playing 10.

                              Makes perfect sense now

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                That also explains why Black has been playing 10. Seems to be well handled by all involved.

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                                @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

                                That also explains why Black has been playing 10. Seems to be well handled by all involved.

                                It would have made more sense for Barrett to stay with the Canes until after his year in Japan. Unless he was unimpressed with the coaching he was getting in Wellington (very likely even though he made all the right noises when he moved). But now hes stuck at FB when maybe he would be better focusing on 1st 5. Whereas the Blues would be silly to move Blacdk to the reserves

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                                  @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

                                  That also explains why Black has been playing 10. Seems to be well handled by all involved.

                                  It would have made more sense for Barrett to stay with the Canes until after his year in Japan. Unless he was unimpressed with the coaching he was getting in Wellington (very likely even though he made all the right noises when he moved). But now hes stuck at FB when maybe he would be better focusing on 1st 5. Whereas the Blues would be silly to move Blacdk to the reserves

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                                  @Winger said in Blues 2020:

                                  Unless he was unimpressed with the coaching he was getting in Wellington (very likely even though he made all the right noises when he moved)

                                  Or possibly he decided to live in Auckland for family reasons and then decided the commute was a little far

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                                    Exactly.

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                                      Carter looking good in his club game so far.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        Carter looking good in his club game so far.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        @ACT-Crusader you'd hope hte world's best ten ever, highest test point scorer and multi World Player of the year would look good in a club game haha

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                                          @ACT-Crusader you'd hope hte world's best ten ever, highest test point scorer and multi World Player of the year would look good in a club game haha

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                                          @Machpants sure, but never a guarantee when test players go down a few levels that they will dominate or even play well.

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