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@Tim IMO the unsung hero of the English pack at that time, when Back, Dayglo, Johnson seemed to get most of the plaudits, I thought HIll was the real standout.
@mariner4life Juan was awesome too.
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@Tim IMO the unsung hero of the English pack at that time, when Back, Dayglo, Johnson seemed to get most of the plaudits, I thought HIll was the real standout.
@mariner4life Juan was awesome too.
@taniwharugby said in NH International Rugby:
@Tim IMO the unsung hero of the English pack at that time, when Back, Dayglo, Johnson seemed to get most of the plaudits, I thought HIll was the real standout.
@mariner4life Juan was awesome too.
TBH, it didn't seem that way to me, the hype out of the NH about Hill was off the charts (again to me).
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@taniwharugby said in NH International Rugby:
@Tim IMO the unsung hero of the English pack at that time, when Back, Dayglo, Johnson seemed to get most of the plaudits, I thought HIll was the real standout.
@mariner4life Juan was awesome too.
TBH, it didn't seem that way to me, the hype out of the NH about Hill was off the charts (again to me).
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@Nepia I was living there around that time and that wasnt how it felt up there.
@taniwharugby said in NH International Rugby:
@Nepia I was living there around that time and that wasnt how it felt up there.
When I was living there he was playing and I don't remember too much hype ... but by the time of RWC 2003 (and I was back in NZ) I remember lots of hype.
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The Hill thing is an odd one
People tend to fall over themselves calling him the most underrated player ever. And that's true to an extent, he didn't have the star profile of Back or Dallaglio. But if everyone is constantly singing his praises (and it was happening whilst he was still playing), I wouldn't really call him unsung or underrated.
Great player though. Best six ever? Not so sure
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@Tim said in NH International Rugby:
Richard Hill was a great player.
As was Kaino. To my mind they played differing roles and so hard to pick one over the other given natural bias an a preference for a style of play. Either would be a good pick. I’d go for Hill because, well because of my natural bias
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@Tim said in NH International Rugby:
Richard Hill was a great player.
As was Kaino. To my mind they played differing roles and so hard to pick one over the other given natural bias an a preference for a style of play. Either would be a good pick. I’d go for Hill because, well because of my natural bias
Yeah it's funny, in another team and maybe time Hill would have played 7 and would obviously be nowhere near this team because of Lord Richard of McCaw.
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@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@Tim said in NH International Rugby:
Richard Hill was a great player.
As was Kaino. To my mind they played differing roles and so hard to pick one over the other given natural bias an a preference for a style of play. Either would be a good pick. I’d go for Hill because, well because of my natural bias
Yeah it's funny, in another team and maybe time Hill would have played 7 and would obviously be nowhere near this team because of Lord Richard of McCaw.
@junior said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@Tim said in NH International Rugby:
Richard Hill was a great player.
As was Kaino. To my mind they played differing roles and so hard to pick one over the other given natural bias an a preference for a style of play. Either would be a good pick. I’d go for Hill because, well because of my natural bias
Yeah it's funny, in another team and maybe time Hill would have played 7 and would obviously be nowhere near this team because of Lord Richard of McCaw.
Tis true. Hill started his international career at 7 including the Lions in 97. He was a pretty handy 7 but better suited at 6 for England.
Oh and by the way, it is not polite to keep reminding us that you have a conveyor belt of world class 7s. Not kind at all.
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Richard Hill was superb.
When he was king hit by Nathan Grey in the second test of the Lions v Australia 2001 Series it turned the tide.
"Richard Hill falls very awkwardly here"
Up until that point the Lions had been dominating Australia and if Hill had stayed on the park would have wrapped the series up in 2 IMHO
Should have been a penalty in front of the sticks and Grey red carded.
From 5.00
Nathan Grey didn't even get a warning FFS -
The Hill thing is an odd one
People tend to fall over themselves calling him the most underrated player ever. And that's true to an extent, he didn't have the star profile of Back or Dallaglio. But if everyone is constantly singing his praises (and it was happening whilst he was still playing), I wouldn't really call him unsung or underrated.
Great player though. Best six ever? Not so sure
@Margin_Walker said in NH International Rugby:
Great player though. Best six ever? Not so sure
I didnt read what started the conversation, I was talking in context of the English squad from the early 00s where he was the heart and soul of it and others got the lollies!
Ben Clarke was another pommy 6 (played 8 too IIRC) I rated, but Kaino shold be in every 6 conversation, as would MJ.
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Richard Hill was superb.
When he was king hit by Nathan Grey in the second test of the Lions v Australia 2001 Series it turned the tide.
"Richard Hill falls very awkwardly here"
Up until that point the Lions had been dominating Australia and if Hill had stayed on the park would have wrapped the series up in 2 IMHO
Should have been a penalty in front of the sticks and Grey red carded.
From 5.00
Nathan Grey didn't even get a warning FFS -
@MiketheSnow mate that's a tap. Hill should change his name to Hollywood.
@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow mate that's a tap. Hill should change his name to Hollywood.
It's a deliberate forearm/elbow to the temple.
Crumpled Hill and fucked his knee in the process.
Dirty, dirty, premeditated shit from Grey.
Look at Grey's lookback. He fucking knew.
Grey had a stormer in the second half possibly feeling he would be cited at least and miss the possible deciding third test.
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@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow mate that's a tap. Hill should change his name to Hollywood.
It's a deliberate forearm/elbow to the temple.
Crumpled Hill and fucked his knee in the process.
Dirty, dirty, premeditated shit from Grey.
Look at Grey's lookback. He fucking knew.
Grey had a stormer in the second half possibly feeling he would be cited at least and miss the possible deciding third test.
@MiketheSnow Hill should stop moving his temple down to his chin, leaves it way more exposed.
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I think you could make an argument for other props in this team. Tom Smith was good, but his reputation is based mainly on the 1997 Lions tour, and obviously he is Scottish.
@Bovidae said in NH International Rugby:
I think you could make an argument for other props in this team. Tom Smith was good, but his reputation is based mainly on the 1997 Lions tour, and obviously he is Scottish.
Tbh. Until you pointed that out. I actually thought it was might mouse Scottish prop from 70s that geech picked, not mighty mousish from the 90s.
Yes. That's a bit underwhelming. Good player. But never at the time did I think I was watching the best player in history in his position. Was he the beat LHP of his decade? Debatable.
Geech coached him for 2 teams. Though.
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@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wales-strength-depth-chart-rated-18560960
Only one I'd question is Tomos Williams starting at 9. Could be either Davies or Webb depending on who's going well in training.
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@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wales-strength-depth-chart-rated-18560960
Only one I'd question is Tomos Williams starting at 9. Could be either Davies or Webb depending on who's going well in training.
@MiketheSnow I've only just tried to read the article and gave up after the shitty page pop-ups and ads still hadn't finished loading by the time I'd managed to eventually get down to blindside with far too much effort than should have been required.
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@Bovidae said in NH International Rugby:
I think you could make an argument for other props in this team. Tom Smith was good, but his reputation is based mainly on the 1997 Lions tour, and obviously he is Scottish.
Tbh. Until you pointed that out. I actually thought it was might mouse Scottish prop from 70s that geech picked, not mighty mousish from the 90s.
Yes. That's a bit underwhelming. Good player. But never at the time did I think I was watching the best player in history in his position. Was he the beat LHP of his decade? Debatable.
Geech coached him for 2 teams. Though.
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@MiketheSnow I've only just tried to read the article and gave up after the shitty page pop-ups and ads still hadn't finished loading by the time I'd managed to eventually get down to blindside with far too much effort than should have been required.
@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow I've only just tried to read the article and gave up after the shitty page pop-ups and ads still hadn't finished loading by the time I'd managed to eventually get down to blindside with far too much effort than should have been required.
Didn't miss much
Usual suspects -
@Rapido Ian McLauchlan was his name. Before my rugby watching.
I would probably pick Os du Randt at LH prop.
McGeechan didn't select as many old timers as I thought.
@Bovidae said in NH International Rugby:
@Rapido Ian McLauchlan was his name. Before my rugby watching.
I would probably pick Os du Randt at LH prop.
McGeechan didn't select as many old timers as I thought.
Os was the LH in that 97 series.
Tom Smith got the better of Adrian Garvey
