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NZ v Australia Test #2

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    barbarian
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    #278

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="560040" data-time="1456132710">
    <div>
    <p>Hey Nick and Barbs and other ockers</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>You should be pleased with your team v us this summer - best they've played in 12 months. It's clear Boof took on a bit of a rebuild of plans executions and strategies following the Ashes and he really has changed things for the better - a fine coach indeed, as was evident when he was with Queensland. Captain still sooks and moans a bit to the press though that can be fixed ;)</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeah our batting order looks much stronger now. Burns, Khawaja and Voges have all stepped up in a big way, which is great to see. We are as stable as we have been in 5 or so years.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Mitch Marsh is still a giant question mark. Obviously has talent but needs runs, luckily no-one seems to be banging down the door for his place at the moment.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It's been a bit disappointing that the BCs couldn't get it going, especially with the ball. Considering how fragile we can be against swing I thought we'd be ripped apart once or twice, but it just hasn't happened.</p>

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    • boobooB Offline
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      booboo
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      #279

      We've forgotten how to swing it this year.<br><br>
      Hope Jurgensen sorts that out.

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        Canerbry
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        #280

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="560052" data-time="1456137937">
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        <p>It's been a bit disappointing that the BCs couldn't get it going, especially with the ball. Considering how fragile we can be against swing I thought we'd be ripped apart once or twice, but it just hasn't happened.</p>
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        <p> </p>
        <p>Two good tosses to win. We love ya Brendan.</p>

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        • TeWaioT Offline
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          TeWaio
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          #281

          <p>Can't help but feel that while Kane is in, we're a chance. He just needs to bat a full day tomorrow, and score another 100-150 runs. </p>

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          • gollumG Offline
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            gollum
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            #282

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="560052" data-time="1456137937">
            <div><br><p>Mitch Marsh is still a giant question mark. Obviously has talent but needs runs, luckily no-one seems to be banging down the door for his place at the moment.</p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Maxwell on the subcontinent maybe? He seems like a guy who still very much has his eye on tests & one good 4 test tour to India might be all it takes.</p>

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            • SiamS Offline
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              Siam
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              #283

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="560052" data-time="1456137937">
              <div>
              <p> </p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Mitch Marsh is still a giant question mark. Obviously has talent but needs runs, luckily no-one seems to be banging down the door for his place at the moment.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p> </p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="560059" data-time="1456150139">
              <div>
              <p>Maxwell on the subcontinent maybe? He seems like a guy who still very much has his eye on tests & one good 4 test tour to India might be all it takes.</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>I think they'll give him time (well as much as you can in Oz cricket).</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>His bowling as the 4th seamer is the goods and it allows the favoured balance of 3 quicks and Lyon. He's got the raw ingredients, as you said, of Watto and they gave him a lot of opportunities.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>One thing all the successful teams have taught us is if you think they've got the real mental and physical talent, then perservere. e.g. Steve Smith</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Interesting listening to cricketers commentate, Punter, KP, Flintoff etc they're flaberghasted that the public laymen bag Watto, they see him as a pretty much auto selection and opposition feared and rated him</p>

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              • gollumG Offline
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                gollum
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                #284

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="560060" data-time="1456152008">
                <div><br><p> </p>
                <p>Interesting listening to cricketers commentate, Punter, KP, Flintoff etc they're flaberghasted that the public laymen bag Watto, they see him as a pretty much auto selection and opposition feared and rated him</p>
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                <p> </p>
                <p>Watson was unlucky in that he was an outstanding prospect at 6 but got moved up to open / 3 because of Aussie issues. You feel the thing they will do with Marsh is give him time as you say, but also not fuck him about moving him all over as they did with Watson.  </p>

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                • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                  taniwharugby
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                  #285

                  Kane to nab BMacs high score....

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                  • H Offline
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                    hydro11
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #286

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="560060" data-time="1456152008">
                    <div>
                    <p>I think they'll give him time (well as much as you can in Oz cricket).</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>His bowling as the 4th seamer is the goods and it allows the favoured balance of 3 quicks and Lyon. He's got the raw ingredients, as you said, of Watto and they gave him a lot of opportunities.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>One thing all the successful teams have taught us is if you think they've got the real mental and physical talent, then perservere. e.g. Steve Smith</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Interesting listening to cricketers commentate, Punter, KP, Flintoff etc they're flaberghasted that the public laymen bag Watto, they see him as a pretty much auto selection and opposition feared and rated him</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Surely people do rate Watson but just like mocking him? I would rate Watson not too far behind Flintoff in terms of value to a team.</p>

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                    • JKJ Offline
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                      JK
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                      #287

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="560063" data-time="1456163321">
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                      <p>Kane to nab BMacs high score....</p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Just need someone to hang around with him. Hopefully its watling as I get that feeling that Southee isnt the man for the job</p>

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                      • KiwiPieK Offline
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                        KiwiPie
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                        #288

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="560070" data-time="1456166873">
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                        <p>Hopefully its watling as I get that feeling that Southee isnt the man for the job</p>
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                        <p>We keep you here for your cricketing insight JK.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>I was impressed with Anderson towards the end of yesterday - did what he had to do to survive. He needs to show that he is more than just a clunker of the ball.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>The ball that got Guptill wasn't even a challenging delivery, outside off coming in on the angle - Guppy just seemed to be late getting there, it was almost catching practice.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Hard to see NZ getting a lead of over 100 unfortunately but we can dream ....</p>

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                        • HoorooH Offline
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                          Hooroo
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                          #289

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiPie" data-cid="560071" data-time="1456168112">
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                          <p><strong>We keep you here for your cricketing insight JK.</strong></p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>I was impressed with Anderson towards the end of yesterday - did what he had to do to survive. He needs to show that he is more than just a clunker of the ball.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>The ball that got Guptill wasn't even a challenging delivery, outside off coming in on the angle - Guppy just seemed to be late getting there, it was almost catching practice.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Hard to see NZ getting a lead of over 100 unfortunately but we can dream ....</p>
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                          </blockquote>
                          <p>I was going to write something cheeky too but am glad I didn't as that made me laugh</p>

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                            tubbyj
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                            #290

                            <p>So what are peoples opinions on Henry Nicholls? One 50 which was a bit streaky and 3 failures. Does he get another shot in the next test series behind Williamson and Taylor at 5 or do we try someone else?</p>

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                              Hooroo
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                              #291

                              <p>I'd give him at least another series. Probably two or three series</p>

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                              • NTAN Offline
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                                #292

                                Nicholls could be your longer term 4 with Ross Taylor at 5. I'd keep him - needs more Test time.

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                                  MN5
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                                  #293

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="560039" data-time="1456131928">
                                  <div>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Are we the Ireland rugby team of cricket?</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Well we used to be Scotland so that's an improvement</p>

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                                    taniwharugby
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                                    #294

                                    <p>wouldn't we be more like Aus. given neither Ireland or Scotland have beaten the ABs' and Wallabies do so from time to time also, as have the Black Caps, we look shit hot against most other teams but when the heat comes on and it matters, neither the Wallabies or BCs can make that next step.</p>

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                                      Hooroo
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                                      #295

                                      <p>You are all mad!</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>We are France!  Made it to WC final, never won the thing.  Can look sublime and ridiculous within two games!</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Flair and misfortune!!</p>

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                                        MN5
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                                        #296

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="560082" data-time="1456173802">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>wouldn't we be more like Aus. given neither Ireland or Scotland have beaten the ABs' and Wallabies do so from time to time also, as have the Black Caps, we look shit hot against most other teams but when the heat comes on and it matters, neither the Wallabies or BCs can make that next step.</p>
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                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>No that's a really dumb analogy, the Wallabies have won the WC twice. Black Caps never have.</p>

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                                        • MN5M Offline
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                                          MN5
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                                          #297

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="560083" data-time="1456174495">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>You are all mad!</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>We are France!  Made it to WC final, never won the thing.  Can look sublime and ridiculous within two games!</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Flair and misfortune!!</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p>I've always thought Pakistan and France were the most comparable.....volatile brilliant players who can smash the best but also get a hiding from the worst.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Help us Obi Wan Kaneobi......you're our only hope</p>

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