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Hurricanes 2020

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Wow, drawing conclusions from appearance only. I can think of many reasons why players don't get game time. Little niggles aren't always visible; they also don't have to stop a player from running. There may be reasons outside rugby (family, for ex) that affect either training or the mental side of things. And dare I say it? Personal preferences from coaches that have nothing to do with a player's fitness or skills? The Hurricanes coaches aren't know for their great selection choices.

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    @Stargazer not drawing conclusions, just commenting on something I have noticed.

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      https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1283189535371755520

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        #915

        Playing club rugby in:

        Wellington
        Selesi Rayasi (Hutt OBM)
        Jonathan Taumateine (Marist SP)
        Murphy Taramai (Upper Hutt Rams)
        Tevita Mafileo (Oriental-Rongotai)

        Fletcher Smith isn't on the Marist SP team sheet.

        Manawatū
        Liam Mitchell (Te Kawau)

        Hawke's Bay
        I assume Jonah Lowe (Clive) and Danny Toala (Hastings R&S) will play in the Hawke's Bay competition, but that info isn't available. As Liam Mitchell is playing in Manawatu, I also assume that Devan Flanders hasn't been released to play club rugby for Havelock North. Same with Rakete-Stones (Napier Pirates), as Fraser Armstrong may break during warm-up.

        I can't find team sheets for BOP either, but I assume Chase Tiatia is playing his club rugby there? Not sure whether Kane Leaupepe has recovered from his injury, but if he is, then I guess he's playing his club rugby in BOP as well.

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            Kobus has been good, shouldn't have been there in the first place, but since he is might as well use him.

            So with Kobus not returning next year, and Lam is outta here, Canes will lose both starting wingers.

            Goosen is just serviceable, Rayasi never seems to make the team - do they have no faith in him at all? Chase Tiatia on the wing - uhhh no thanks, Lowe is always injured.

            Will be interesting who the starting wingers will be next year, just please don't go overseas looking for a winger.

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              Kobus has been good, shouldn't have been there in the first place, but since he is might as well use him.

              So with Kobus not returning next year, and Lam is outta here, Canes will lose both starting wingers.

              Goosen is just serviceable, Rayasi never seems to make the team - do they have no faith in him at all? Chase Tiatia on the wing - uhhh no thanks, Lowe is always injured.

              Will be interesting who the starting wingers will be next year, just please don't go overseas looking for a winger.

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              @Darren Maybe all the players who don't get opportunities now, may finally get game time. Agree about signings from overseas; I hope they'll look for talent during the NPC instead.

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                Even if they want to look overseas, for a 3m tall Bok Lock for ex, I think CV will put a dampener on that idea. Too hard basket.

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                • D Darren

                  Kobus has been good, shouldn't have been there in the first place, but since he is might as well use him.

                  So with Kobus not returning next year, and Lam is outta here, Canes will lose both starting wingers.

                  Goosen is just serviceable, Rayasi never seems to make the team - do they have no faith in him at all? Chase Tiatia on the wing - uhhh no thanks, Lowe is always injured.

                  Will be interesting who the starting wingers will be next year, just please don't go overseas looking for a winger.

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                  @Darren I hope they shift Aso back to his best position of right-wing and continue to develop Peter Umaga Jensen at centre next year. Then I think we should bring Toala into the reserves, he's the next best cab off the rank IMO and has the ability to cover multiple positions.

                  I think Rayasi is probably favoured to take Ben Lam's 11 jersey next year (unless he commits to the Sevens). Rayasi probably hasn't had as much game time because he committed to Sevens this year, and Lam is the incumbent.

                  My backline for 2021 atm is: 9. Perenara 10. ? 11. Rayasi 12. Laumape 13. Umaga Jensen 14. Aso 15. Barrett 21. Booth 22. ? 23. Toala

                  Where does it state Kobus isn't returning?

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Darren I hope they shift Aso back to his best position of right-wing and continue to develop Peter Umaga Jensen at centre next year. Then I think we should bring Toala into the reserves, he's the next best cab off the rank IMO and has the ability to cover multiple positions.

                    I think Rayasi is probably favoured to take Ben Lam's 11 jersey next year (unless he commits to the Sevens). Rayasi probably hasn't had as much game time because he committed to Sevens this year, and Lam is the incumbent.

                    My backline for 2021 atm is: 9. Perenara 10. ? 11. Rayasi 12. Laumape 13. Umaga Jensen 14. Aso 15. Barrett 21. Booth 22. ? 23. Toala

                    Where does it state Kobus isn't returning?

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                    @Canes4life JB doesn't even make your starting backing? Tough

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                      @Canes4life JB doesn't even make your starting backing? Tough

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                      @canefan Yeah he does, he's at 15. 🙂

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @canefan Yeah he does, he's at 15. 🙂

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                        @Canes4life TBH He’s our best 10, too. You’ve got to hope F Smith gets some time to see if he develops tho, more upsides than JGB - who is competent but slow. And the Canes still operate at a Beaudy at 10 pace.

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                          @Canes4life TBH He’s our best 10, too. You’ve got to hope F Smith gets some time to see if he develops tho, more upsides than JGB - who is competent but slow. And the Canes still operate at a Beaudy at 10 pace.

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                          @Machpants yeah but I think we get the best out of Jordie at fullback as he's so bloody safe under the high ball. Let's hope the Canes offer him plenty of $$ to stay put.

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                            @canefan Yeah he does, he's at 15. 🙂

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                            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @canefan Yeah he does, he's at 15. 🙂

                            Oops sorry, got the number lined up wrong....

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                              @Darren I hope they shift Aso back to his best position of right-wing and continue to develop Peter Umaga Jensen at centre next year. Then I think we should bring Toala into the reserves, he's the next best cab off the rank IMO and has the ability to cover multiple positions.

                              I think Rayasi is probably favoured to take Ben Lam's 11 jersey next year (unless he commits to the Sevens). Rayasi probably hasn't had as much game time because he committed to Sevens this year, and Lam is the incumbent.

                              My backline for 2021 atm is: 9. Perenara 10. ? 11. Rayasi 12. Laumape 13. Umaga Jensen 14. Aso 15. Barrett 21. Booth 22. ? 23. Toala

                              Where does it state Kobus isn't returning?

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                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              Where does it state Kobus isn't returning?

                              Hes signed for a UK club

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300061699/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-wing-kobus-van-wyk-to-link-up-with-leicester-tigers

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                Where does it state Kobus isn't returning?

                                Hes signed for a UK club

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300061699/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-wing-kobus-van-wyk-to-link-up-with-leicester-tigers

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                                @Winger that's surprising considering about a month ago he was keen to sign on. Oh well, there's plenty of talent in NZ to pick from.

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                                  @Winger that's surprising considering about a month ago he was keen to sign on. Oh well, there's plenty of talent in NZ to pick from.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                  @Winger that's surprising considering about a month ago he was keen to sign on. Oh well, there's plenty of talent in NZ to pick from.

                                  He's played well but I'm happy he's going. Someone local can try to step up

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                                    The return of Da Bus?

                                    https://twitter.com/juliansavea7/status/1285377792431943680?s=20

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                                      The return of Da Bus?

                                      https://twitter.com/juliansavea7/status/1285377792431943680?s=20

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                                      @sparky said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                      The return of Da Bus?

                                      I'm guessing the Canes will pick him up

                                      He's been training with Ponsonby but not playing. He got offered an Auckland contract but turned it down. I presume that's because the risk of an injury ruining a much more valuable SR contract

                                      From his social media it looks like he's living in Takapuna

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Darren I hope they shift Aso back to his best position of right-wing and continue to develop Peter Umaga Jensen at centre next year. Then I think we should bring Toala into the reserves, he's the next best cab off the rank IMO and has the ability to cover multiple positions.

                                        I think Rayasi is probably favoured to take Ben Lam's 11 jersey next year (unless he commits to the Sevens). Rayasi probably hasn't had as much game time because he committed to Sevens this year, and Lam is the incumbent.

                                        My backline for 2021 atm is: 9. Perenara 10. ? 11. Rayasi 12. Laumape 13. Umaga Jensen 14. Aso 15. Barrett 21. Booth 22. ? 23. Toala

                                        Where does it state Kobus isn't returning?

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                                        @Canes4life 10. ? where did this guy come from?
                                        In all seriousness I wonder if they will re sign both Smith and JGB for next year?

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                                          @Canes4life 10. ? where did this guy come from?
                                          In all seriousness I wonder if they will re sign both Smith and JGB for next year?

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                                          @mikey07 I'm still hoping there's room for McClutchie ...

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