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    Can anyone confirm the other 3 replacements for Laumape, Armstrong and Evans?

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      Can anyone confirm the other 3 replacements for Laumape, Armstrong and Evans?

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      @mikey07 I was told Norm Hewett showed glimpses of class in his appearance for the Centurions on Saturday over in Wainuiomata. He must be in with a chance of a surprise recall in replacement for Armstrong given he is now the size of a good old fashioned prop. HIs last really good performance would be about the same time as J Savea's last one.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

        @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

        Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

        Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

        I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

        The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

        Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

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        @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

        @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

        @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

        Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

        Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

        I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

        The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

        Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

        I just mentioned it because it's not like he's over the hill. Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

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          sparky
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          Welcome back home to Da Bus! A fantastic player when he was at his best.

          Not expecting miracles from a guy nearly 30 who has had injury and fitness issues, but could yet be a shrewd signing. He mostly played in the midfield for Toulon.

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            Stargazer
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            For anyone, who missed it. Not only Laumape is ruled out of the rest of SRA. Also Fraser Armstrong. Both need surgery. Gareth Evans' injury is also season-ending.

            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/07/super-rugby-aotearoa-ngani-laumape-set-to-miss-remainder-of-hurricane-season-with-injury.html

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

              @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

              @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

              Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

              Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

              I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

              The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

              Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

              I just mentioned it because it's not like he's over the hill. Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

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              Duluth
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              @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

              Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

              There's two ways he can silence the critics in this thread - play well or sign for Hawkes

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

                There's two ways he can silence the critics in this thread - play well or sign for Hawkes

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                Stargazer
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                @Duluth Nope, you're wrong there with the last bit. The idea ... :face_vomiting:

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                  Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

                  There's two ways he can silence the critics in this thread - play well or sign for Hawkes

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                  @Duluth Hawkes Bay is fairly well off for props, Ben May excepted.

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                  • HigginsH Higgins

                    @Duluth Hawkes Bay is fairly well off for props, Ben May excepted.

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                    Stargazer
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                    @Higgins Haha. That's a far better response than mine!

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                      Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                      Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

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                      @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                      Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                      > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                      To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                      Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                        Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                        Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                        I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

                        The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

                        Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

                        I just mentioned it because it's not like he's over the hill. Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

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                        @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                        Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                        Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                        I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

                        The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

                        Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

                        I just mentioned it because it's not like he's over the hill. Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

                        If he was an always fit and always seemingly professional guy (which he may be but doesn't seem so from the outside) it could be beneficial.

                        @Duluth An out of form Savea playing for the Magpies would see the rest of the world deafened from the level of criticism. FYI - I'd rather they play Rayasi as well but not sure how that will fit into your narrative. 😉

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                          @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                          Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                          > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                          To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                          Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

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                          @MN5 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                          @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                          @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                          Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                          > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                          To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                          Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

                          Google feeders, is a real thing

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                            Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                            > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                            To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                            Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

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                            Kirwan
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                            @MN5 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                            Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                            > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                            To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                            Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

                            Got to drown out the crazy with something:)

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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122255070/super-rugby-hurricane-ngani-laumape-optimistic-for-november-return-as-surgery-looms

                              Holland confirmed three replacement players for the final three weeks of this campaign: loose forward Brayden Iose, prop Jarred Adams (formerly of the Sunwolves), and former Hurricanes legend Julian Savea who is great PR but won’t be considered for the Chiefs match after no competitive rugby since his return from France.

                              Good to see Jarred Adams get some brief experience.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @MN5 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                                Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                                > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                                To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                                Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

                                Got to drown out the crazy with something:)

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                                MN5
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                                @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @MN5 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

                                Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

                                > Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

                                To be fair he caused a lot of his own issues from what I heard, not just her.

                                Plus I don’t think she forced all that KFC down his throat.

                                Got to drown out the crazy with something:)

                                Good point, I've heard she's batshit, even for a middle eastern woman.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122255070/super-rugby-hurricane-ngani-laumape-optimistic-for-november-return-as-surgery-looms

                                  Holland confirmed three replacement players for the final three weeks of this campaign: loose forward Brayden Iose, prop Jarred Adams (formerly of the Sunwolves), and former Hurricanes legend Julian Savea who is great PR but won’t be considered for the Chiefs match after no competitive rugby since his return from France.

                                  Good to see Jarred Adams get some brief experience.

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                                  @Tim said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                  Holland confirmed three replacement players for the final three weeks of this campaign: loose forward Brayden Iose, prop Jarred Adams (formerly of the Sunwolves), and former Hurricanes legend Julian Savea who is great PR but won’t be considered for the Chiefs match after no competitive rugby since his return from France.

                                  Good to see Jarred Adams get some brief experience.

                                  This is a good article for Canes fans. More of this is needed. But I wonder about Numia. Hopefully hes available with Armstrong

                                  Also this

                                  At least the Hurricanes have midfield depth, with the experienced Vince Aso, Billy Proctor and young Danny Toala in reserve.
                                  
                                  And there was some positive news with centre Peter Umaga-Jensen clear of any concussion symptoms on Monday after departing with a heavy knock in his storming game against the Crusaders.
                                  
                                  

                                  Holland talks about how tough it is on players. But that's where rotation is important. Goosen was great last week after he had a 2 week rest from starting. Aso has now had a rest. Players like Blackwell starts every week when good other options are available, I know its a tough one but when there are good other option try rotating players. About the only player who can't be rotated is Barrett (Tiatia who is the next option is such a massive step down). Even Perenara could be (start Booth with Perenara in the reserves). And May for Lomax to give him a rest before injury.

                                  Also will be interesting to see who they pick in the midfield and wing, If PUJ is definitely fully fit I would give him another run at center. If not there are other options

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @Tim said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                    Holland confirmed three replacement players for the final three weeks of this campaign: loose forward Brayden Iose, prop Jarred Adams (formerly of the Sunwolves), and former Hurricanes legend Julian Savea who is great PR but won’t be considered for the Chiefs match after no competitive rugby since his return from France.

                                    Good to see Jarred Adams get some brief experience.

                                    This is a good article for Canes fans. More of this is needed. But I wonder about Numia. Hopefully hes available with Armstrong

                                    Also this

                                    At least the Hurricanes have midfield depth, with the experienced Vince Aso, Billy Proctor and young Danny Toala in reserve.
                                    
                                    And there was some positive news with centre Peter Umaga-Jensen clear of any concussion symptoms on Monday after departing with a heavy knock in his storming game against the Crusaders.
                                    
                                    

                                    Holland talks about how tough it is on players. But that's where rotation is important. Goosen was great last week after he had a 2 week rest from starting. Aso has now had a rest. Players like Blackwell starts every week when good other options are available, I know its a tough one but when there are good other option try rotating players. About the only player who can't be rotated is Barrett (Tiatia who is the next option is such a massive step down). Even Perenara could be (start Booth with Perenara in the reserves). And May for Lomax to give him a rest before injury.

                                    Also will be interesting to see who they pick in the midfield and wing, If PUJ is definitely fully fit I would give him another run at center. If not there are other options

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                                    @Winger said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                    @Tim said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                    Holland confirmed three replacement players for the final three weeks of this campaign: loose forward Brayden Iose, prop Jarred Adams (formerly of the Sunwolves), and former Hurricanes legend Julian Savea who is great PR but won’t be considered for the Chiefs match after no competitive rugby since his return from France.

                                    Good to see Jarred Adams get some brief experience.

                                    This is a good article for Canes fans. More of this is needed. But I wonder about Numia. Hopefully hes available with Armstrong

                                    Numia had knee surgery approx 4-5 weeks ago and is back in the gym for rehab. It's so annoying the Canes don't provide injury updates on players. No idea how serious his injury is, but I doubt we'll see Numia in the last two games.

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                                      sdrggyy
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                                      I'd go for Danny Toala, Umaga-Jensen midfield,

                                      Goosen, Rayasi starting on the wings,

                                      Vince Aso and Van Wyk on the bench.

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                                        I'd go for Danny Toala, Umaga-Jensen midfield,

                                        Goosen, Rayasi starting on the wings,

                                        Vince Aso and Van Wyk on the bench.

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                                        @sdrggyy I think they will shift Umaga-Jensen in one to 12 and start Aso at 13.

                                        I like your thinking bringing in Toala but I'm afraid they will most likely use Tiatia somewhere again.

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                                          Hurricanes depth chart 2021:

                                          The Hurricanes have already confirmed a large proportion of their squad for next year which will provide some much-needed continuity going into 2021.

                                          Confirmed signings:

                                          Props: Alex Fidow, Tevita Mafileo, Tyrel Lomax, Xavier Numia
                                          Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Dane Coles, Ricky Riccitelli
                                          Locks: Scott Scrafton, Liam Mitchell, Kane Le’aupepe, Jame Blackwell
                                          Loose Forwards: Devan Flanders, Ardie Savea, Du’Plessis Kirifi, Reed Prinsep
                                          Halfbacks: TJ Perenara, Jamie Booth, Jonothan Taumateine
                                          First Fives: Simon Hickey
                                          Centres: Ngani Laumape, Peter Umaga Jensen, Danny Toala, Billy Proctor
                                          Outside Backs: Wes Goosen, Vince Aso, Chase Tiatia, Jordie Barrett

                                          We have a good core group of players to add to from the signings list above and the key areas for the Canes to focus on for me during the offseason is making sure they add depth to their tight five, while locking down a franchise first five going forward.

                                          Players in contention/coming through the system/un-signed: @Stargazer Please add to the list if you can think of anymore as you are in the loop of players coming through HB.

                                          Props: Fraser Armstrong (probable), Pouri Rakete-Stones (probable)
                                          Hookers: Kianu Keruru-Symes, Tyrone Thompson
                                          Locks: Isaia Walker-Leawere (probable), Tom Parsons, Taine Plumtree, Geoff Cridge, Hamilton Burr
                                          Loose Forwards: Gareth Evans (probable), Vaea Fifita (probable), Brayden Iose, Caleb Delany, Josh Southall, Tyler Laubscher
                                          Halfbacks: Logan Crowley, Isaac Bracewell
                                          First Fives: Jackson Garden Bachop (probable), Fletcher Smith (probable), Lincoln McClutchie, Aiden Morgan, Ruben Love, TJ Va’a
                                          Centres: Keinan Higgins, Ethan Webster-Nonu
                                          Outside backs: Jonah Lowe, Roderick Solo

                                          The Hurricanes have proven they haven't been afraid to look outside their regions or even the country for talent so expect some suprises by the time the offical squad is announced for next year.

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