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NZ v Australia Test #2

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  • MN5M Offline
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    MN5
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    #539

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="560484" data-time="1456274825">
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    <p>Well, that's that. #1 Test ranking again, and finally some consistent form across the team this summer. Warming up on the WIndies' reserve side definitely helped, but it was a thoroughly disciplined performance in that first session in Welly to put the brakes on any BC momentum.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Now we need to start winning overseas more.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Not sure why you're bothering going on about it. No one on here really cares about cricket. Anything that might have been mistaken for enthusiasm was actually boredom while waiting for Super Rugby to start again.</p>

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    • NTAN Offline
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      #540

      <p>And so, the sun came up on rugby season, and the vampire that is New Zealand cricket fandom returned to its torpor.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Must say though: been a helluva 12-13 months for NZ Cricket in general.</p>

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      • MN5M Offline
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        #541

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="560505" data-time="1456277935">
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        <p>And so, the sun came up on rugby season, and the vampire that is New Zealand cricket fandom returned to its torpor.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Must say though: been a helluva 12-13 months for NZ Cricket in general.</p>
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        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>I thought a 1-0 victory to the BCs was not out of reach at the start of the series. Didn't dare think 2-0 was possible. Good to nail the ODI series but feel a bit meh about the test series. Can't help but be a bit gutted we didn't do a hell of a lot better.</p>

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        • V Offline
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          Virgil
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          #542

          Little Stevie has been sent to the naughty chair after all...<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://nzh.tw/11594927">http://nzh.tw/11594927</a>

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          • NTAN Offline
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            NTA
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            #543

            <p>And the Veitch crowd get some more material for the "Aussies are fluffybunnys" **** bank.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Smith admitted he acted poorly, and will be disciplined appropriately... Unless you're a Kiwi, in which case nothing short of forfeiting the series is appropriate :)</p>

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            • MN5M Offline
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              #544

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="560522" data-time="1456280983">
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              <p>And the Veitch crowd get some more material for the "Aussies are fluffybunnys" **** bank.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Smith admitted he acted poorly, and will be disciplined appropriately... Unless you're a Kiwi, in which case nothing short of <strong>forfeiting the series is appropriate</strong> :)</p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Well, at least split it 1-1 ?</p>

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              • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                ACT Crusader
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                #545

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="560522" data-time="1456280983">
                <div>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Smith admitted he acted poorly, and will be disciplined appropriately... Unless you're a Kiwi, in which case nothing short of <strong>forfeiting the series </strong>is appropriate :)</p>
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                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>What series? Can't recall any series....</p>

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                • SiamS Offline
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                  #546

                  <p>Well played Australia. It's all about bat versus ball and the Yellow team were superior in both ergo, a better team, and deserving victors.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Got to see how a Wallaby supporter feels, with due optimism being replaced by harsh reality - a yucky feeling ;)</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Nah, a bit proud of how the BC boys kept scrapping but in sports class and skill beats endeavour most times</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Good to have proper cricket on the agenda for a while though.</p>

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                  • R Offline
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                    Rembrandt
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                    #547

                    <p>Oh good another moral victory against the west islanders....had a few of those recently, still reckon I'd swap all of them for one actual test series win. Future still looks ok so hope springs eternal.</p>

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                    • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                      #548

                      <p>Moral victory? Black Caps got pumped in one test and well beaten in the other.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Black Caps did better in the series in OZ at the start of the summer. </p>

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                      • antipodeanA Offline
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                        antipodean
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                        #549

                        <p>Genuinely unsurprising result. New Zealand's cricket strength is their one day side.</p>

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                        • NTAN Offline
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                          NTA
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                          #550

                          <p>I'll just leave this here....</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11584294'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11584294</a></p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>:whistle:</p>

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                            mariner4life
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                            #551

                            <p>well, so long cricket season. It was fun. We sort of found our place in the world. </p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>As a Black Cap fan, while it was disappointing to be put in our place, this team is still pretty awesome (for us i mean). Plenty of our teams over the last 20 years would have folded in this test, and lost it by an innings. </p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>It's a great time to be a cricket fan from NZ. </p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Well done Australia, way too good all summer (in the whites anyway). It will be interesting to see how you go in India and England, but in familiar conditions this is a pretty formidable unit. A deserved win for a team playing good cricket in all facets. </p>

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                              kiwiinmelb
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                              #552

                              <p>Without trying to sound like a stuck record , </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>We needed to win the toss and bowl first in both tests to be any chance , </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Thats the way it goes , Aussies deserved to win , simply because they are better </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Ive had enough now, Bring on the rugby </p>

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                                KiwiPie
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                                #553

                                <p>These 2 reports after the first day of this test capture the supreme madness of a McCullum innings</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/77105681/greg-baum-brendon-mccullums-ton-one-for-the-ages-one-for-the-road'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/77105681/greg-baum-brendon-mccullums-ton-one-for-the-ages-one-for-the-road</a></p>
                                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/story/974601.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-australia-2015-16/content/story/974601.html</a></p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>After the madcap first day, the defeat was rather predictable and depressing. The difference in the quality of the pace bowling was large - in Australia you could say that the Mitchells had the extra pace to use the harder wickets but here the NZ bowlers were meant to compete. But while the Aussie quicks were probing and accurate, seaming the new ball and reverse swinging the old one, a wicket always looked imminent; the NZ quicks were respectable at best, the new ball did nothing and it was a major surprise when a wicket fell.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Finally there are similarities in the style of McCullum to the legendary Jessop <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketer/content/story/134791.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketer/content/story/134791.html</a></p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">He went down the wicket even to bowlers of extreme pace with the intention of making them drop the ball short, and when they did so, he would cut or pull the ball savagely. No hitter has ever cut so well, and his footwork enabled him to cut balls even on his leg stump, or pull them to leg from outside his off stump. He had an enormous variety of strokes which meant that he recognised no such thing as a good-length ball, though he always said that he liked to bat against good bowlers; hence his remarkable success against the Yorkshire bowling, the greatest of which was the scoring of 104 and 139 at Bradford in 1900, where he struck Rhodes eight times right out of the ground for six, and also made another eight hits over the ropes which were worth only four.</blockquote>

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                                  MN5
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                                  #554

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="560539" data-time="1456288098">
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                                  <p>I'll just leave this here....</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11584294'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11584294</a></p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> :whistle:</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Somewhere, just out of Whangarei, a piercing shriek was heard.....and then silence.....deathly silence.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Haha, that article really is him at his most awesomely inept best.....since when has NZ been a fucken lions den for Australian cricketers ????</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Who were our scary fast bowlers ?</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>How can a team with batsmen averaging about 50,close to 50, just under 50, north of 60 and 90 odd be "operating with thin resources?"</p>

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                                    canefan
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                                    #555

                                    <p>That aussie won was no surprise, it is the natural order of things.  We lost two tosses on result pitches and this didn't help but wasn't the reason we lost.  What is most concerning IMHO was how toothless our attack was.  In the second game only Wagner showed the fight and grit that we need, and we lacked the plans and the discipline to execute them.  In addition our two new ball bowlers were significantly down on pace, we just didn't look like scaring anyone</p>

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                                      Donsteppa
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                                      #556

                                      Gutted, had thought we were a chance of pinching at least one of the tests this summer - and maybe two with some luck<br><br>
                                      Well off the pace with ball and bat though. <br><br>
                                      Back to the plotting lair for next time...

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                                        TeWaio
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                                        #557

                                        <p>Sadly I can't agree with all this talk of a promising future. The time for these guys was now. Baz retiring, Taylor probably going soon, KW in his pomp. But our two strike bowlers have transformed into medium pacers who cant't move it. I can see us having already peaked as a test side ~12months ago and a few (relatively) leaner years ahead. Feeling even more deflated than after losing that test at Lords last year  :negative:</p>

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                                          gollum
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                                          #558

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="TeWaio" data-cid="560587" data-time="1456305380">
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                                          <p>Sadly I can't agree with all this talk of a promising future. The time for these guys was now. Baz retiring, Taylor probably going soon, KW in his pomp. But our two strike bowlers have transformed into medium pacers who cant't move it. I can see us having already peaked as a test side ~12months ago and a few (relatively) leaner years ahead. Feeling even more deflated than after losing that test at Lords last year  :negative:</p>
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                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I think we have upside from here, Latham, Watling, Kane, Satner, Anderson will all get better. Guptil can't really get worse. Taylor still has a few of years in him. He should be thinking a double of 20 test & ODI tons. No reason he can't hit that - tho' the lack of tests might not help. thety just need to manage him, if he wants to go play Big Bash & skip some shithouse series re the Bangles then let him if the alternative is we lose him altogether.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>On the bowling front we just need a decent coach. We had an entirely predictable fall off by going Donald-Bond- Dimi. Seriously. Dimi.. WTF happened there. Thats like going Dravid-Crowe-Rod Latham in batting... A decent coach will get them back firing. And Henry looks solid.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Get Vetorri working a bit with Satner & Ish.</p>

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