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Blues 2020

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph although, signing a 'kid' to a full 3 year contract is part of the problem in NZ rugby...some make the step up, but many dont, avoiding the pathway of club or development sides.

    I realise it has been this way for some time, but doesnt mean I have ot agree with it.

    It would be a foolish BoD that didn't take this approach by signing talent at a young age. It's the world we live in. I don't agree kids should play spacies all the time but that's the way it is.

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    @Hooroo said in Blues 2020:

    I don't agree kids should play spacies all the time but that's the way it is.

    haha, showing your age there, spacies :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Hooroo if we win next weekend, we finish with the same number of wins as the Crusaders, and miss out on bonus points. I'll take that with a happy smile, particularly from where we've been.

      We're building nicely

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      @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

      @Hooroo if we win next weekend, we finish with the same number of wins as the Crusaders, and miss out on bonus points. I'll take that with a happy smile, particularly from where we've been.

      We're building nicely

      Absolutely and that is even more proof that you are there or thereabouts. I really hope Highlanders get up this weekend so we do have a legitimate final. But that is an unrealistic expectation on my part

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @KiwiMurph although, signing a 'kid' to a full 3 year contract is part of the problem in NZ rugby...some make the step up, but many dont, avoiding the pathway of club or development sides.

        I realise it has been this way for some time, but doesnt mean I have ot agree with it.

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        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

        @KiwiMurph although, signing a 'kid' to a full 3 year contract is part of the problem in NZ rugby...some make the step up, but many dont, avoiding the pathway of club or development sides.

        I realise it has been this way for some time, but doesnt mean I have ot agree with it.

        It's just the way it is now

        There were complaints on TSF that Sotutu signed a long contract despite only having a handful of NPC games.
        Imagine the whining if he was with another franchise now?

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          as I said, I know it is the way it is...look at someone like Nock, signed on as a schoolboy star with huge potential, look how long he has taken to start realising it, even then, still not to the level some had anticipated.

          He may turn out to be a star, he may not, I just think it is a shame it is at a point where Franchises sign these kids, a cynic would say in cases to stop him playing elsewhere.

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            In the modern game I wouldn't consider a 20 year old a 'kid' anymore.

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              A good signing for the Blues, particularly as the direction of player movement is usually in the other direction.

              Darry looked good for the NZ Schools team in Aussie.

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                https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-sport/star-rugby/players-watch-canterbury-during-2020

                It’s no surprise Darry is currently training with the Crusaders as part of their pre-season programme and is likely someone who the franchise and Canterbury have their eyes on going forward due to his undoubted ability and natural leadership skills.

                Not enough of an eye apparently.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  as I said, I know it is the way it is...look at someone like Nock, signed on as a schoolboy star with huge potential, look how long he has taken to start realising it, even then, still not to the level some had anticipated.

                  He may turn out to be a star, he may not, I just think it is a shame it is at a point where Franchises sign these kids, a cynic would say in cases to stop him playing elsewhere.

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                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                  as I said, I know it is the way it is...look at someone like Nock, signed on as a schoolboy star with huge potential, look how long he has taken to start realising it, even then, still not to the level some had anticipated.

                  He may turn out to be a star, he may not, I just think it is a shame it is at a point where Franchises sign these kids, a cynic would say in cases to stop him playing elsewhere.

                  he may have gone a damn sight better with the current coaching setup -- the more I've seen of JK as a pundit, the less I have been impressed with his analytical abilities

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                    as I said, I know it is the way it is...look at someone like Nock, signed on as a schoolboy star with huge potential, look how long he has taken to start realising it, even then, still not to the level some had anticipated.

                    He may turn out to be a star, he may not, I just think it is a shame it is at a point where Franchises sign these kids, a cynic would say in cases to stop him playing elsewhere.

                    he may have gone a damn sight better with the current coaching setup -- the more I've seen of JK as a pundit, the less I have been impressed with his analytical abilities

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                    @nzzp well I didnt wanna say that, as I sometimes get accused of bias... 😉

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @nzzp well I didnt wanna say that, as I sometimes get accused of bias... 😉

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                      @nzzp well I didnt wanna say that, as I sometimes get accused of bias... 😉

                      Very unfair too. We know that you are biased, the accusations are completely unnecessary.

                      I actually think that Dalton is a good player but apparently I only think that is because he plays for one of the teams that I support. Go figure.

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                        Wow, did not see that coming.

                        Blues are stacked at lock now.

                        Found this part interesting:

                        “I was really impressed speaking with coaches Leon (MacDonald) and Tom (Coventry), and trainer Phil Healey who worked with Brodie Retallick in his younger days. Brodie is someone I look up to and as a tall and lanky lock, I want to model my game on his.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

                          No way this type of signing happens 2 years ago.

                          Spot on,

                          success breeds success. Also, did you see this from Hore:
                          Blues CEO Andrew Hore said ... the first of what he expects will be several significant signings over the coming weeks.

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                          @nzzp Soane Vikena has been signed I believe. U20s hooker out of MAGS. That would mean the Blues would have Parsons, Niuia, Vikena.....so Eklund or Tolai (or both?) will be without a team

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                            @nzzp Soane Vikena has been signed I believe. U20s hooker out of MAGS. That would mean the Blues would have Parsons, Niuia, Vikena.....so Eklund or Tolai (or both?) will be without a team

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                            @Nogusta Is Tolai staying with Harbour? Don't they have some money troubles?

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                                @Nogusta Is Tolai staying with Harbour? Don't they have some money troubles?

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                                @Tim not sure about Tolai but I think Mark Telea will be plying his M10 trade in Nelson

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                                  https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1291129970635321344

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                                  @Stargazer Wow this is suprising. I watched this kid at the Quad tournament a couple of years ago. Huge future in the game, very surprised that he's leaving Canterbury though.

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                                    trodthesod
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                                    Perhaps the forwards coach?

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                                      @trodthesod

                                      Early nomination for white knight award, I see?

                                      'All Blues successes can be tied to Tom Coventry'

                                      I'm not saying you're wrong either btw (and I wish he were still at the Chiefs, fucking Cooper), but you're well on your way to a nomination.

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                                        Guilty as charged!

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                                          I was working at Ruakura when the Chiefs arrived on the campus.I was able to watch most of their trainings,and got to experience up close the work of Rennie ,Smith,Coventry,Andrew Strawbridge and Carl Hoeft.They all had their time running trainings,and most impressive they all were.They had immediate success ,so have been a fan ever since.

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