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Hurricanes v Chiefs

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    part of problem for chiefs injury's in tight five, be interesting for other teams to lose this type of depth.
    gone with out playing moli, harris,coxon alladice, macwhanell,ardron
    injured missed games ross,o'neill,taavao ah kuoi
    plus BBBR

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:

      @Bones you have no argument, surprise suprise.

      Argument against what? It's rugby 101 bro. If you're on a losing streak, it's got nothing to do with your fullback, inside backs, loose forwards, front row all not performing well enough. Fucken wings duh!

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      @Bones if you’re on an 8 game losing streak and you keep selecting the same players expecting a different result then you’re dreaming. Rugby 101 bro, your wingers are your finishers. The Chiefs have produced plenty of pill this year to get the job done, I guess let’s blame the props and locks for not putting points on the board because I forgot it’s their job to do so.

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        @Bones if you’re on an 8 game losing streak and you keep selecting the same players expecting a different result then you’re dreaming. Rugby 101 bro, your wingers are your finishers. The Chiefs have produced plenty of pill this year to get the job done, I guess let’s blame the props and locks for not putting points on the board because I forgot it’s their job to do so.

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        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:

        @Bones if you’re on an 8 game losing streak and you keep selecting the same players expecting a different result then you’re dreaming. Rugby 101 bro, your wingers are your finishers. The Chiefs have produced plenty of pill this year to get the job done, I guess let’s blame the props and locks for not putting points on the board because I forgot it’s their job to do so.

        Your run at the chiefs coaching job next year is spot on. I don't see how the board could ignore it.

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          part of problem for chiefs injury's in tight five, be interesting for other teams to lose this type of depth.
          gone with out playing moli, harris,coxon alladice, macwhanell,ardron
          injured missed games ross,o'neill,taavao ah kuoi
          plus BBBR

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          @ploughboy I’m not buying that, all teams have had injury issues throughout the season. The Chiefs have been in most of their games this year but have lacked that execution when it has counted. Take last week for example, they could have got on top of the Crusaders early in the second half but their so called micro skills and lack of finishing let them down. Story of their season really.

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            @ploughboy I’m not buying that, all teams have had injury issues throughout the season. The Chiefs have been in most of their games this year but have lacked that execution when it has counted. Take last week for example, they could have got on top of the Crusaders early in the second half but their so called micro skills and lack of finishing let them down. Story of their season really.

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            @Canes4life the Chiefs injuries in the tight 5 is far worse than any other franchise this year.

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              @ploughboy I’m not buying that, all teams have had injury issues throughout the season. The Chiefs have been in most of their games this year but have lacked that execution when it has counted. Take last week for example, they could have got on top of the Crusaders early in the second half but their so called micro skills and lack of finishing let them down. Story of their season really.

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              @Canes4life you dont buy that all these players have been injured?

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                We've got Adam Thomson covering lock ffs

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                  @Canes4life you dont buy that all these players have been injured?

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                  @ploughboy I don’t buy that it’s a reason for their losses. They’ve been in plenty of games this season to get the job done.

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                    @ploughboy I don’t buy that it’s a reason for their losses. They’ve been in plenty of games this season to get the job done.

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                    @Canes4life you dont think that if we didnt have so many injurys that we might have won some of those games?

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                      We've got Adam Thomson covering lock ffs

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                      @Yeetyaah surely that’s more of a selection issue isn’t it? The Chiefs could have signed Tom Parsons or Geoff Cridge out of Hawkes Bay. I guess the Chiefs are just one big shit show atm.

                      Best of luck to them turning things around.

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                        @Canes4life you dont think that if we didnt have so many injurys that we might have won some of those games?

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                        @ploughboy maybe so, however you can’t ignore poor coaching and I think that’s probably been the biggest problem.

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                          @Yeetyaah surely that’s more of a selection issue isn’t it? The Chiefs could have signed Tom Parsons or Geoff Cridge out of Hawkes Bay. I guess the Chiefs are just one big shit show atm.

                          Best of luck to them turning things around.

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                          @Canes4life ok if we had signed some hawkes players for our injurys we would have won some games?

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                            @ploughboy maybe so, however you can’t ignore poor coaching and I think that’s probably been the biggest problem.

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                            @Canes4life i never said that,

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                              @Canes4life ok if we had signed some hawkes players for our injurys we would have won some games?

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                              @ploughboy said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:

                              @Canes4life ok if we had signed some hawkes players for our injurys we would have won some games?

                              No. Clearly it's the wings. Oh and the coaching. And not signing players. If only they had players the calibre of Goosen and Van Wyk.

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                                Three Magpies! None in the starting lineup, but still ... 3!

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                                @Nepia said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:

                                Three Magpies! None in the starting lineup, but still ... 3!

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                                So Chiefs to run away with it in the last 20?

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                                  @Canes4life ok if we had signed some hawkes players for our injurys we would have won some games?

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                                  @ploughboy maybe picking better squad players may have helped prepare the starters better, so yes picking those HB players over guys like Thomson may have helped, who bloody knows. What we do know is that Gatland is the laughing stock of NZ rugby atm and is odds on of not winning a game in this tournament.

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                                    @Yeetyaah maybe so but there have been plenty of opportunities this year when the Chiefs have lacked that ruthless ability to turn opportunities into tries and to me a big reason for that has been Wainui. Surely throwing someone else into the fire wouldn't hurt when the season is done and dusted anyway.

                                    McKenzie hasn't been anywhere near his best because he's trying to compensate for the averageness around him. Put him into the Crusaders/Blues/Canes atm and he would be a totally different player.

                                    I'm not trying to attack the Chiefs, I'm just wondering if there are other options out there as the current make up of that back three looks a little limited. Who knows, if they give someone like Naholo a chance he might be the guy that sparks the Chiefs back into life.

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                                    @Canes4life DMAc has done nothing of the sort this season. He’s just played poorly. He’s made bad decisions, execution has been very bad. His goal kicking the only bright point. It’s the worst I’ve ever seen him play and I’m not a huge fan, but he’s played at a high level and that has had nothing to do with those around him.

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                                      @ploughboy maybe picking better squad players may have helped prepare the starters better, so yes picking those HB players over guys like Thomson may have helped, who bloody knows. What we do know is that Gatland is the laughing stock of NZ rugby atm and is odds on of not winning a game in this tournament.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:

                                      @ploughboy maybe picking better squad players may have helped prepare the starters better, so yes picking those HB players over guys like Thomson may have helped, who bloody knows. What we do know is that Gatland is the laughing stock of NZ rugby atm and is odds on of not winning a game in this tournament.

                                      ok

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                                        @Canes4life DMAc has done nothing of the sort this season. He’s just played poorly. He’s made bad decisions, execution has been very bad. His goal kicking the only bright point. It’s the worst I’ve ever seen him play and I’m not a huge fan, but he’s played at a high level and that has had nothing to do with those around him.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader you don’t think a part of that form is down to his poor combination with his wingers? It was mentioned a few times in the game thread last weekend that McKenzie looks like he isn’t trusting his teammates. Maybe it’s true, the fact he is so erratic this year might be down to that trust in those around him, mixed in with poor coaching or him just trying too hard coming back from his injury / trying to create opportunities that some of his teammates fail to.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader you don’t think a part of that form is down to his poor combination with his wingers? It was mentioned a few times in the game thread last weekend that McKenzie looks like he isn’t trusting his teammates. Maybe it’s true, the fact he is so erratic this year might be down to that trust in those around him, mixed in with poor coaching or him just trying too hard coming back from his injury / trying to create opportunities that some of his teammates fail to.

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                                          @Canes4life Dmac has always been erratic. Headless chook. Or whatever you want to call it. Nothing to do with the players around him. He's just worse than previous years, because he's making mistakes like in @ACT-Crusader 's post. It's sad he's not been able to come back to pre-injury form; maybe he needs a good Mitre 10 Cup season to do that.

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