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    @Nepia One thing really noticeable was how deep the backlines were all the time. Not condusive to kiwi style counter attack, really good at getting headless chooks running sideways and getting isolated

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    I think there are some damning indictments on the coaching staff

    The attack had no discernible plan, and actually seemed to get less cohesive as the year went on, despite a fair amount of consistent selection in the back line. Most of the time they looked like they met in the carpark, yet had been playing together for weeks.

    The other is linked to the above, the defensive pattern, especially in the backs, was deplorable. We gave up easy try after easy try because the alignment and communication just wasn't there. And it wasn't just after repeated phases, it could be off first phase FFS!

    We definitely lacked power runners. Cane tries hard, but he's a defensive player mainly. Sowakula is hugely over rated. Our 6 options are light weights, our locks are light weights, our front rowers offered fuck all. That is a stick i can't beat the coaches with. But someone has to put together the roster.

    The season was very disappointing. Yes we were in games for a long time, but we were desperately poor for huge amounts of SRA.

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    @Nepia That’s my first reaction as well f%*% that…then after a scone & cuppa….
    Itoje – Let’s not kid ourselves here, that guy’s world class. Who in their right mind wouldn’t even consider having him in their ranks?
    Farrell – A player who tends to take the right options & perhaps a perfect foil for Cruden & ALB. Not a bad player & that’s putting it mildly – guaranteed points.
    -Adds legitimacy to the comp with the question, can these NH heavyweights compete?

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    @Magic65 said in Chiefs 2020:

    Cruden

    He's gone. Next year the Chiefs are relying on Trask if they can't recruit someone better.

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    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    @Magic65 said in Chiefs 2020:

    Cruden

    He's gone. Next year the Chiefs are relying on Trask if they can't recruit someone better.

    if they throw in Sinkler i am all for it.

    why not have a few of the best NH players down here?

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    @Magic65 no thanks to either of those twats regardless of their ability. I'd rather have another year like this if it means rebuilding without bringing English internationals in.

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    @mariner4life It would be good to see the three biggest dicks in English rugby lose week in week out.

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    @Tim havent they also got Reihana in the squad, 2 promising greenhorns

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    @mariner4life fuuuuuuuuuuuck off

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    @taniwharugby Falcon and Trask in the squad, Reihana in the colts. Isn't Falcon playing in Japan next year?

    EDIT: Yes he is.

    And with Gatland revealing that Tiaan Falcon is also headed for Japan following this season, their future is Trask – the 21-year-old Bay of Plenty pivot, who has dipped his toes in at this level this year.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122164219/super-rugby-aotearoa-aaron-cruden-benched-as-winless-chiefs-look-to-the-future

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    I thought Falcon went alright last year. Shame to lose him. Maybe they're making room for a more experienced player to complement Trask and Reihana? Is Fletcher Smith available?

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    I'm okay with developing a young fella and Trask looks okay at his current level. I'd probably lean more towards Reihana but that's probably just the Waikato in me

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    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life It would be good to see the three biggest dicks in English rugby lose week in week out.

    FIFY

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    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life It would be good to see the three biggest dicks in English rugby lose week in week out.

    if we had Itoje, Sinkler and Farrell we win probably half of those games. They are all quality players

    Yes, massive tools, absolutely no disagreement there. But tools that can fucking play.

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    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    I thought Falcon went alright last year. Shame to lose him. Maybe they're making room for a more experienced player to complement Trask and Reihana? Is Fletcher Smith available?

    Fletcher Smith comes off-contract this year; no news about him re-signing with the Canes, yet.

    Also, if the Canes don't sign him, McClutchie might be a good option. At the start of the 2021 SR season, he'll have 3 years of Mitre 10 Cup under his belt; so more experience than Reihana, but less than Trask's SR experience, obviously.

    Falcon was very good for a rookie in his few SR games; then came the injuries. It's a pity he didn't get more than a few minutes against the Sunwolves since. It's a shame he's leaving NZ already. Hopefully, he's just going for one or two years, and isn't lost to NZ rugby yet.

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    @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life It would be good to see the three biggest dicks in English rugby lose week in week out.

    if we had Itoje, Sinkler and Farrell we win probably half of those games. They are all quality players

    Yes, massive tools, absolutely no disagreement there. But tools that can fucking play.

    Is that what you want for your team? Quade might be available too.Get BOD out of retirement?

    Fuck that.

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    @Snowy said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life It would be good to see the three biggest dicks in English rugby lose week in week out.

    if we had Itoje, Sinkler and Farrell we win probably half of those games. They are all quality players

    Yes, massive tools, absolutely no disagreement there. But tools that can fucking play.

    Is that what you want for your team? Quade might be available too.Get BOD out of retirement?

    Fuck that.

    They want wins.

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    @Snowy said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2020:

    @Tim said in Chiefs 2020:

    @mariner4life It would be good to see the three biggest dicks in English rugby lose week in week out.

    if we had Itoje, Sinkler and Farrell we win probably half of those games. They are all quality players

    Yes, massive tools, absolutely no disagreement there. But tools that can fucking play.

    Is that what you want for your team? Quade might be available too.Get BOD out of retirement?

    Fuck that.

    i said good players

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    Just collecting dickheads in Hamilton doesn't seem like a good idea.

    Oh.

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    @Snowy said in Chiefs 2020:

    Just collecting dickheads in Hamilton doesn't seem like a good idea.

    Oh.

    can you think of a better place to stash them?

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