Top Ferners underrated players
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Fucking hurricanes fans.
On a thread about under rated players bring up an established all black who is widely regarded as being one of the form players in SRA.
Next it'll be
Ardie Savea: because some people don't have him as first choice for all 3 loose forward positions.
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I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
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I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
@mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:
I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
Oh, so this is a thinly veiled Crusaders fans' circle jerk thread then?
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@mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:
I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
Oh, so this is a thinly veiled Crusaders fans' circle jerk thread then?
@canefan said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:
I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
Oh, so this is a thinly veiled Crusaders fans' circle jerk thread then?
Probably. Most threads are really
Fuckers
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Geez I hope we ruin Super Rugby again in 2021
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I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
@mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:
I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
Sanders especially looks like a horrible abrasive bastard to tackle. Douglas doesn't seem to show as much as he did a couple of seasons ago (when he ditched overseas halfway through a season?) but does a bloody good impression of Thorne.
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@mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:
I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
Sanders especially looks like a horrible abrasive bastard to tackle. Douglas doesn't seem to show as much as he did a couple of seasons ago (when he ditched overseas halfway through a season?) but does a bloody good impression of Thorne.
@Bones said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:
I think the best guys for this thread are the Crusaders loose forwards. Not big names, barely mentioned in dispatches, but perform their roles well enough for their team to win the comp a week early. None will he mentioned as unlucky when the AB squad gets announced.
That's underrated.
Sanders especially looks like a horrible abrasive bastard to tackle. Douglas doesn't seem to show as much as he did a couple of seasons ago (when he ditched overseas halfway through a season?) but does a bloody good impression of Thorne.
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@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
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@ARHS said in Top Ferners underrated players:
Also liked the work of Ayden Johnstone, Michael Collins, Josh Mackay, Quinton Strange, Cowley-Tuioti, Telea and Eklund from Blues and Boshier, Ah Kuoi and Vaai from Chiefs.
Aidan Ross, Bradley Slater, Lachlan Boshier (and Sam Cane) were all consistently superb for the Chiefs this year. The 0-8 season record doesn't do their efforts justice.
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@sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:
George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.
Kind of like Caleb Ralph then?
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:
George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.
Kind of like Caleb Ralph then?
I said exactly this and I didn’t get as many upvotes
#stink
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@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:
George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.
Kind of like Caleb Ralph then?
I said exactly this and I didn’t get as many upvotes
#stink
@MN5 said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:
George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.
Kind of like Caleb Ralph then?
I said exactly this and I didn’t get as many upvotes
#stink
But you diluted the observation by mentioning Zac Guilford.
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@MN5 said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:
George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.
Kind of like Caleb Ralph then?
I said exactly this and I didn’t get as many upvotes
#stink
But you diluted the observation by mentioning Zac Guilford.
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@MN5 said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:
George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.
Kind of like Caleb Ralph then?
I said exactly this and I didn’t get as many upvotes
#stink
But you diluted the observation by mentioning Zac Guilford.
A pisshead who stole precious caps off others? I also mentioned a white guy who looked like a sheep
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@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
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@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
And a centre is Goodhue playing 13. There is no inside or outside.
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Read the title of this thread as ‘Top Ferners underrated’..was then expecting to be tagged here, so yeah kinda disappointed and relieved at the same time.
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@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre. -
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre.@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre.Pom
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@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre.Pom
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre.Pom
Wrong. Poms believe that all backs, including the 2nd 5 and centre, exist to tackle and chase after the first 5's kicks
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@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre.Pom
Wrong. Poms believe that all backs, including the 2nd 5 and centre, exist to tackle and chase after the first 5's kicks
@canefan said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@booboo said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@Crucial said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@antipodean said in Top Ferners underrated players:
@ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.
A genuine second five-eighth.
Say whaaat ?
You mean a genuine inside centre?
This is still a New Zealand forum?
The name used is relevant to the style of player.
A genuine second five is like when DC wore 12
A centre is like Laumape, Goodhue or Faiane.
Nah.
Your classic NZ crash ball 2nd 5/8 is like a Macrae or Osborne or Taylor.
It's only recently when we've been playing 2 x 10s that people have adapted the term to having a second first 5/8.
I don't like the term 'inside centre' really either but was using it to differentiate the 12 from 13 when playing two 'centres as opposed to two 'five-eights'.
I disagree about the crash ball 12. That is a reasonably modern usage of the position in NZ.
Our 12 was usually either a second playmaker type (a 'second' first five) like DC, Mauger, McAllister etc or a stepper with distribution skills like Little.
A 'genuine' second-five IMO plays to the origin of the name. One of the five-eighths that link the half to the three-quarters and is backup to the 10.
I don't see Faiane as a classic second-five, more a running, distributing centre.Pom
Wrong. Poms believe that all backs, including the 2nd 5 and centre, exist to tackle and chase after the first 5's kicks
Fly half
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Read the title of this thread as ‘Top Ferners underrated’..was then expecting to be tagged here, so yeah kinda disappointed and relieved at the same time.
@Virgil said in Top Ferners underrated players:
Read the title of this thread as ‘Top Ferners underrated’..was then expecting to be tagged here, so yeah kinda disappointed and relived at the same time.
You’ll always have a place in my heart Virg. It takes a special kind of nerd to organise the fernies like you did.
