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'Super Rugby' 2021

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @KiwiMurph Convincing New Zealand to sanction its players playing in Australia will be a tough ask, but NZR is already funnelling players to Japan as a way of coping with the overseas player drain. It has been happening in an unofficial capacity for a number of years, with the likes of Taniela Tupou, Pete Samu and Sekope Kepu moving to Australia in search of opportunities.

    So where's the benefit?

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    @antipodean presumably the theoretical benefit would be a more competitive comp.

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      sounds like rugby's version of cuckolding to me

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        As long as they only get our left overs, I'm fine with it.

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          Will it increase the risk of poaching of our young school leaving talent (including for the Wallabies after 5 years residency)? If so, then I'm against it.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            Will it increase the risk of poaching of our young school leaving talent (including for the Wallabies after 5 years residency)? If so, then I'm against it.

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            @Stargazer When was the last time Australia poached an NZ schoolboy? i can point to several in the last few years where NZ have poached Australian schoolboys.

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              @Stargazer When was the last time Australia poached an NZ schoolboy? i can point to several in the last few years where NZ have poached Australian schoolboys.

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              @Derpus not disputing, actual question, who?

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @Derpus not disputing, actual question, who?

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                @Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                @Derpus not disputing, actual question, who?

                At a guess he'll name Lomax.

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                  "Several" so at least two to go.

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                    Is it poaching if the player leaves to pursue a dream?

                    "I wanted to play for the All Blacks, that was the main thing," Lomax said. "And it was about representing my family, getting back to New Zealand.

                    "I tried to picture myself playing for the Wallabies and wondering what it would feel like. It probably didn't feel right, to be honest. And I'm happy with how it's going so far."

                    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/why-tyrel-lomax-chose-a-life-for-the-all-blacks-instead-of-wallabies-20181128-p50iue.html

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      Is it poaching if the player leaves to pursue a dream?

                      "I wanted to play for the All Blacks, that was the main thing," Lomax said. "And it was about representing my family, getting back to New Zealand.

                      "I tried to picture myself playing for the Wallabies and wondering what it would feel like. It probably didn't feel right, to be honest. And I'm happy with how it's going so far."

                      https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/why-tyrel-lomax-chose-a-life-for-the-all-blacks-instead-of-wallabies-20181128-p50iue.html

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                      @antipodean Haha, Lomax was born and raised in NZ, so a Kiwi who moved to Australia. Not a poach.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @antipodean Haha, Lomax was born and raised in NZ, so a Kiwi who moved to Australia. Not a poach.

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                        @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                        @antipodean Haha, Lomax was born and raised in NZ, so a Kiwi who moved to Australia. Not a poach.

                        Nah I think you'll find he was born in Canberra while his father was playing for the Raiders.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                          @antipodean Haha, Lomax was born and raised in NZ, so a Kiwi who moved to Australia. Not a poach.

                          Nah I think you'll find he was born in Canberra while his father was playing for the Raiders.

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                          @antipodean Okay, I stand corrected, but there's no doubt he's a Kiwi and always was. Not a poach.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                            @Derpus not disputing, actual question, who?

                            At a guess he'll name Lomax.

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                            @antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                            @Derpus not disputing, actual question, who?

                            At a guess he'll name Lomax.

                            i hope not! he'd already played for the rebels...hardly a schoolboy

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                              @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @antipodean Okay, I stand corrected, but there's no doubt he's a Kiwi and always was. Not a poach.

                              Yes you can't deny the cultural pull can be very strong for some, especially in tight families if you grow up watching your parents barracking for a certain team.

                              One of my SILs in Qld was telling me that my nieces' school had a footy jersey day instead of school uniform and near half the class of one of them was decked out in All Blacks jerseys. She said near every kid was actually born in Australia.

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                                I'm curious which Australian schoolboys have been poached by NZ.

                                Tiaan Tauakipulu went from NZ to Aust late last year.

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                                  I'm curious which Australian schoolboys have been poached by NZ.

                                  Tiaan Tauakipulu went from NZ to Aust late last year.

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                                  @Bovidae Taniela Tupou?

                                  By the way, my earlier question was not about past poaches, but a possible increased risk of future poaches. The main culprits are NRL scouts, but if RA wants to widen the net and catch more Kiwi players, I think asking the question is justified.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Bovidae Taniela Tupou?

                                    By the way, my earlier question was not about past poaches, but a possible increased risk of future poaches. The main culprits are NRL scouts, but if RA wants to widen the net and catch more Kiwi players, I think asking the question is justified.

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                                    @Stargazer Was Tupou in NZ before playing at Sacred Heart? I don't know.

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                                      @antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                      She said near every kid was actually born in Australia"

                                      The Black blood runs deep.

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                                        Where would Taniela Tupou rank if he had stayed in NZ? I personally think he's very good atm and has the potential to be a great player. I would have him on par with Laulala but behind Ofa.

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                                          Where would Taniela Tupou rank if he had stayed in NZ? I personally think he's very good atm and has the potential to be a great player. I would have him on par with Laulala but behind Ofa.

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                                          @akan004 he'd be waaaaay better by now if he stayed here, cos, you know, NZ 🙂

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