Wellington Lions 2020
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Watched Kaliopasi Uluilakepa and Mateaki Kafatolu both play for Petone on Saturday. Uluilakepa looked to be about 15 to 20 kg overweight and did nothing scrumming wise to inspire any confidence in him in that aspect (until the Axemen bench props came on and made it not so difficult for him) but did come into his own a little bit in the second half with a couple of mid field bashes when his team had most of the ball and were on top of the smaller Axemen pack. Kafetolu had his first run for the season (at No. Eight) but did not really notice him until I spotted him in a lineout about ten minutes into the second half. Cannot really give an opinion on his play because I did not watch him very closely at all. Seemed to be OK fitness wise though. Fahamokioa actually turns out for Norths these days and has been on the bench for all others games this season and likewise for Tawa during the latter part of last season so not sure whether he is recovering from injury or the desire to play at the top is still there. We can certainly count out another Tawa front row player from any involvement with the Lions from now on.
From what I heard pre covid Fifita was exploring overseas options (and who can blame him after being permanently overlooked for Reed Princep at the Hurricanes!) although things might have changed since then with the drastic salary reductions, back to reality, happening up there. -
Connor Garden-Bachop made his return to club footy on Saturday for Norths. I thought he was out for the season so it's good to see him back and running around just before the NPC kicks off.
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Wellington, though, has strong midfield stocks with Hurricanes Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso and Billy ProctorAso is better on the wing. His defence is flakey in the midfield.
Savea at 12 and PUJ at 13? Proctor struggles to make the 23?
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Wellington, though, has strong midfield stocks with Hurricanes Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso and Billy ProctorAso is better on the wing. His defence is flakey in the midfield.
Savea at 12 and PUJ at 13? Proctor struggles to make the 23?
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
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@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
@Canes4life said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
Proctor will likely come good soon enough. But he's been a bit disappointment so far. But then so was PUJ until he finally stepped up. My view is he still needs to bulk up.
With Savea, Wellington signed him so he needs a chance in his preferred position (2nd 5) so I would like to see in one game
- Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Savea 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Proctor
If he performs keep him there or as a backup midfielder
Its a big loss that our top two LH props are out (when did Armstrong move to Wellington?)
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@Canes4life said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
Proctor will likely come good soon enough. But he's been a bit disappointment so far. But then so was PUJ until he finally stepped up. My view is he still needs to bulk up.
With Savea, Wellington signed him so he needs a chance in his preferred position (2nd 5) so I would like to see in one game
- Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Savea 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Proctor
If he performs keep him there or as a backup midfielder
Its a big loss that our top two LH props are out (when did Armstrong move to Wellington?)
@Winger said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Canes4life said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
Proctor will likely come good soon enough. But he's been a bit disappointment so far. But then so was PUJ until he finally stepped up. My view is he still needs to bulk up.
With Savea, Wellington signed him so he needs a chance in his preferred position (2nd 5) so I would like to see in one game
- Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Savea 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Proctor
If he performs keep him there or as a backup midfielder
Its a big loss that our top two LH props are out (when did Armstrong move to Wellington?)
The coach has already said that Savea might have his ideas but they know where he has been proven in the past so will think of him there.
Sounds quite blinkered but I guess that if they think they can get value from him out wide they will try. -
@Canes4life said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
Proctor will likely come good soon enough. But he's been a bit disappointment so far. But then so was PUJ until he finally stepped up. My view is he still needs to bulk up.
With Savea, Wellington signed him so he needs a chance in his preferred position (2nd 5) so I would like to see in one game
- Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Savea 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Proctor
If he performs keep him there or as a backup midfielder
Its a big loss that our top two LH props are out (when did Armstrong move to Wellington?)
@Winger He probably has been a disappointment but I don't think he's fully matured, like PUJ I think we need to give him time to develop properly before making too much judgment. If he's still playing like this in a year or two then we have a problem.
Giving Savea a go in the midfield will also come down to whether we have signed TUJ, if we have then I can't see Savea jumping our strong centre options.
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@Winger He probably has been a disappointment but I don't think he's fully matured, like PUJ I think we need to give him time to develop properly before making too much judgment. If he's still playing like this in a year or two then we have a problem.
Giving Savea a go in the midfield will also come down to whether we have signed TUJ, if we have then I can't see Savea jumping our strong centre options.
@Canes4life check Otago rugby Facebook, he's on the injured list for Otago, he's signed with Otago now
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@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
@Canes4life said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
There are two Garden-Bachop in your backline.
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@Canes4life said in Wellington Lions 2020:
@Duluth I'd like to see a backline of: 9. Perenara 10. Garden-Bachop 11. Aso 12. Proctor 13. Umaga-Jensen 14. Goosen 15. Garden-Bachop, with Savea rampaging off the bench.
I'm keen for Wellington to persist with Proctor somewhere in the backline, he's still only 21 so has plenty of time on his side.
There are two Garden-Bachop in your backline.
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@Canes4life check Otago rugby Facebook, he's on the injured list for Otago, he's signed with Otago now
@NateHill74 cool cool. Shame we lost TUJ but I guess it's the problem we have when we are so stacked in one position.
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How does O'Reilly still have a contract? Surely after the cocaine incident, this would be a massive black mark against his name. It's not like Wellington are short of decent hookers.
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How does O'Reilly still have a contract? Surely after the cocaine incident, this would be a massive black mark against his name. It's not like Wellington are short of decent hookers.
@Canes4life Yep, Coles, Aumua and Tyrone Thompson. Not sure about the fourth.
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How does O'Reilly still have a contract? Surely after the cocaine incident, this would be a massive black mark against his name. It's not like Wellington are short of decent hookers.
@Canes4life jeez what a fuckwit.
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https://www.wrfu.co.nz/news/post/wellington-lions-squad-named-for-2020-mitre-10-cup/News/detail/
Interstellar there’s 4 players that play or can play 10 excluding TJ@mikey07 So indeed, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe in the squad. I wondered whether Wellington had signed him when I noticed he was playing club rugby in Wellington. It will be interesting to see if he can get more game time for the Lions.
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The Wellington Lions squad for the 2020 Mitre 10 Cup is:
Naitoa Ah Kuoi
Fraser Armstrong
Vince Aso
Asafo Aumua
Ben Aumua-Peseta
Teariki Ben-Nicholas
James Blackwell
Dane Coles
Connor Collins
Caleb Delaney
Alex Fidow
Vaea Fifita
Connor Garden-Bachop
Jackson Garden-Bachop
Wes Goosen
Callum Harkin
Kemara Hauiti-Parapara
Mateaki Kafatolu
Du'Plessis Kirifi
Ruben Love
Aidan Morgan
Xavier Numia
James O'Reilly
Pepesana Patafilo
TJ Perenara
Taine Plumtree
Morgan Poi
James Poloniati
Billy Proctor
Trent Renata
Ardie Savea
Julian Savea
Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe
Tyronne Thompson
Kaliopasi Uluilakepa
Peter Umaga-Jensen
