Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay
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@Nepia My Waikato team had ALB and DMac in those positions. The caveat is that both were very young when they played for Waikato so they've been picked on SR and AB form.
Andrew Strawbridge went close at fullback in my team. He's 3rd on the points list BTW, with The Boot 2nd.
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Now that I have thought a bit more, maybe Paul Cooke or Tony Maidens on the wing?
I agree with @Nepia about Falcon at 8, no-one better in his prime. And also Horrell, even if not homegrown. The only other contender that I can remember who was a great regular 12 was Davis Norman, but that is probably showing my age. I do think that Danny Toala can eclipse them all with the right focus and opportunities
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@Stockcar86 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Now that I have thought a bit more, maybe Paul Cooke or Tony Maidens on the wing?
Maidens wouldn't really be in the conversations to start though would he? Guildford, Cooke, Randle, Taylor etc would all be ahead in the queue.
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@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Stockcar86 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Now that I have thought a bit more, maybe Paul Cooke or Tony Maidens on the wing?
Maidens wouldn't really be in the conversations to start though would he? Guildford, Cooke, Randle, Taylor etc would all be ahead in the queue.
But he was capped for NZ (well, at 7's)...
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@Stockcar86 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Stockcar86 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Now that I have thought a bit more, maybe Paul Cooke or Tony Maidens on the wing?
Maidens wouldn't really be in the conversations to start though would he? Guildford, Cooke, Randle, Taylor etc would all be ahead in the queue.
But he was capped for NZ (well, at 7's)...
As were Guildford and Randle, and Trinity Spooner Neera for that matter.
Actually, that reminds me Tafai Ioasa is another nomination for the loosies.
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@Nepia could run Bert Cooke at 12
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@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia could run Bert Cooke at 12
Yeah, if it was non NPC era it would be between Cooke and Blake in the 20s and MacRae and Davis from the 60s.
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@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
Yes you're right.
In 1987, his last year at Te Aute College, he made the HB Under 18 team that won the Central Region Under 18 title.
That HB Under 18 team contained Shaun Bell, Aaron Hamilton, George Konia, Nathan Paewai, John Timu, Andre Bell, Jason McDowell, Stu Forster, Greg Halford, George Ormond, Justin Cullen and Gordon Falcon, who all went on to play first-class rugby.
No wonder they beat Wellington 25-7 in the final.
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@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
Yes you're right.
In 1987, his last year at Te Aute College, he made the HB Under 18 team that won the Central Region Under 18 title.
That HB Under 18 team contained Shaun Bell, Aaron Hamilton, George Konia, Nathan Paewai, John Timu, Andre Bell, Jason McDowell, Stu Forster, Greg Halford, George Ormond, Justin Cullen and Gordon Falcon, who all went on to play first-class rugby.
No wonder they beat Wellington 25-7 in the final.
Damn, that team was stacked!
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@Nepia looks like it's made up basically of of TKK o Lindisfarne.
Also should we add Marvin Karawana to the midfield options?
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@Stargazer As you're clearly going to be our team captain, how are we going to select our team?
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@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
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@Stargazer said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger RandleGood work, now we can fight it out using that as a starting point.
I'd go with Ben T over Edmonds.
Hika over Hewitt.
Graeme Higginson at lock if Canterbury don't pick him up (which seems unlikely).
Watts over Ngarimu but we should probably select Michael Johnson there.
Maybe Seymour over Lowe at 7 although Falcon was an awesome 7 when he first played too.Lee over Weber. Although we're forgetting about Stu Forster too who is a chance.
McClutchie and Falcon are already better 10s than Waenga for the bench but Berquist would probably rival Ihaia for a starting spot.
Murdoch Paewai or Matt Cooper in the midfield.
We can chuck Paul Cooke and Paul Turner into the mix due to the selection criteria.
Greg or Matt Cooper or Dagg at fullback. Cunningham was great, and RIP of course, but those three were all better players.
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@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Stargazer said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger RandleGood work, now we can fight it out using that as a starting point.
I'd go with Ben T over Edmonds.
Hika over Hewitt.
Graeme Higginson at lock if Canterbury don't pick him up (which seems unlikely).
Watts over Ngarimu but we should probably select Michael Johnson there.
Maybe Seymour over Lowe at 7 although Falcon was an awesome 7 when he first played too.Lee over Weber. Although we're forgetting about Stu Forster too who is a chance.
McClutchie and Falcon are already better 10s than Waenga for the bench but Berquist would probably rival Ihaia for a starting spot.
Murdoch Paewai or Matt Cooper in the midfield.
We can chuck Paul Cooke and Paul Turner into the mix due to the selection criteria.
Greg or Matt Cooper or Dagg at fullback. Cunningham was great, and RIP of course, but those three were all better players.
So basically you want to change the whole list (except BBBR)?
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