Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay
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@Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Coops might be Waikato's record points scorer but he wouldn't make the best XV. We can use Beaver.
It's just the kicks out in front I need to worry about!
Who are your 12 or 15s?
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@Nepia could run Bert Cooke at 12
@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia could run Bert Cooke at 12
Yeah, if it was non NPC era it would be between Cooke and Blake in the 20s and MacRae and Davis from the 60s.
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@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia could run Bert Cooke at 12
Yeah, if it was non NPC era it would be between Cooke and Blake in the 20s and MacRae and Davis from the 60s.
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@Nepia Get Mike Coman in there, alongside Franks, May, The Mighty Kahn...surely KK as coach...
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@Chris-B said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Get Mike Coman in there, alongside Franks, May, The Mighty Kahn...surely KK as coach...
Kahn will be in the running, I’ll leave the others for your team.
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@Chris-B said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Caleb Makene? We did our best with him, for you!
Did you chequebook him as well?
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@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
Yes you're right.
In 1987, his last year at Te Aute College, he made the HB Under 18 team that won the Central Region Under 18 title.
That HB Under 18 team contained Shaun Bell, Aaron Hamilton, George Konia, Nathan Paewai, John Timu, Andre Bell, Jason McDowell, Stu Forster, Greg Halford, George Ormond, Justin Cullen and Gordon Falcon, who all went on to play first-class rugby.
No wonder they beat Wellington 25-7 in the final.
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@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
Yes you're right.
In 1987, his last year at Te Aute College, he made the HB Under 18 team that won the Central Region Under 18 title.
That HB Under 18 team contained Shaun Bell, Aaron Hamilton, George Konia, Nathan Paewai, John Timu, Andre Bell, Jason McDowell, Stu Forster, Greg Halford, George Ormond, Justin Cullen and Gordon Falcon, who all went on to play first-class rugby.
No wonder they beat Wellington 25-7 in the final.
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
Yes you're right.
In 1987, his last year at Te Aute College, he made the HB Under 18 team that won the Central Region Under 18 title.
That HB Under 18 team contained Shaun Bell, Aaron Hamilton, George Konia, Nathan Paewai, John Timu, Andre Bell, Jason McDowell, Stu Forster, Greg Halford, George Ormond, Justin Cullen and Gordon Falcon, who all went on to play first-class rugby.
No wonder they beat Wellington 25-7 in the final.
Damn, that team was stacked!
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@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Number-10 said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Not sure @Gunner
George Konia played for Manawatu first ....
But played for Hawkes Bay schools before that.
I assume @Gunner is suggesting he's a bad coach and that's why we'd want him coaching the Taniwha?
Yes you're right.
In 1987, his last year at Te Aute College, he made the HB Under 18 team that won the Central Region Under 18 title.
That HB Under 18 team contained Shaun Bell, Aaron Hamilton, George Konia, Nathan Paewai, John Timu, Andre Bell, Jason McDowell, Stu Forster, Greg Halford, George Ormond, Justin Cullen and Gordon Falcon, who all went on to play first-class rugby.
No wonder they beat Wellington 25-7 in the final.
Damn, that team was stacked!
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@Stargazer As you're clearly going to be our team captain, how are we going to select our team?
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger Randle -
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger Randle@Stargazer said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger RandleGood work, now we can fight it out using that as a starting point.
I'd go with Ben T over Edmonds.
Hika over Hewitt.
Graeme Higginson at lock if Canterbury don't pick him up (which seems unlikely).
Watts over Ngarimu but we should probably select Michael Johnson there.
Maybe Seymour over Lowe at 7 although Falcon was an awesome 7 when he first played too.Lee over Weber. Although we're forgetting about Stu Forster too who is a chance.
McClutchie and Falcon are already better 10s than Waenga for the bench but Berquist would probably rival Ihaia for a starting spot.
Murdoch Paewai or Matt Cooper in the midfield.
We can chuck Paul Cooke and Paul Turner into the mix due to the selection criteria.
Greg or Matt Cooper or Dagg at fullback. Cunningham was great, and RIP of course, but those three were all better players.
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@Stargazer said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger RandleGood work, now we can fight it out using that as a starting point.
I'd go with Ben T over Edmonds.
Hika over Hewitt.
Graeme Higginson at lock if Canterbury don't pick him up (which seems unlikely).
Watts over Ngarimu but we should probably select Michael Johnson there.
Maybe Seymour over Lowe at 7 although Falcon was an awesome 7 when he first played too.Lee over Weber. Although we're forgetting about Stu Forster too who is a chance.
McClutchie and Falcon are already better 10s than Waenga for the bench but Berquist would probably rival Ihaia for a starting spot.
Murdoch Paewai or Matt Cooper in the midfield.
We can chuck Paul Cooke and Paul Turner into the mix due to the selection criteria.
Greg or Matt Cooper or Dagg at fullback. Cunningham was great, and RIP of course, but those three were all better players.
@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Stargazer said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia Moi??????? I'd maybe create a poll if that was possible in a post (in an existing thread), but I don't think it is.
This is my attempt at naming a team. I'm far from sure though. So many loosies to choose from. Not sure about the halves, especially in the reserves. I want Dagg in the starting XV but no room at fullback, and then there are several wings to pick from. That 23 jersey could go to so many players ...
1 Sona Taumalolo
2 Norm Hewitt
3 Brendon Edmonds
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Bryn Evans
6 Mutu Ngarimu
7 Karl Lowe
8 Gordon Falcon
9 Brad Weber
10 Ihaia West
11 Zac Guildford
12 Andrew Horrell
13 Richard Buckman
14 Israel Dagg
15 Jarrod Cunningham16 Ash Dixon
17 Clint Newland
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Mark Abbott
20 Gareth Evans
21 Danny Lee
22 Dan Waenga
23 Roger RandleGood work, now we can fight it out using that as a starting point.
I'd go with Ben T over Edmonds.
Hika over Hewitt.
Graeme Higginson at lock if Canterbury don't pick him up (which seems unlikely).
Watts over Ngarimu but we should probably select Michael Johnson there.
Maybe Seymour over Lowe at 7 although Falcon was an awesome 7 when he first played too.Lee over Weber. Although we're forgetting about Stu Forster too who is a chance.
McClutchie and Falcon are already better 10s than Waenga for the bench but Berquist would probably rival Ihaia for a starting spot.
Murdoch Paewai or Matt Cooper in the midfield.
We can chuck Paul Cooke and Paul Turner into the mix due to the selection criteria.
Greg or Matt Cooper or Dagg at fullback. Cunningham was great, and RIP of course, but those three were all better players.
So basically you want to change the whole list (except BBBR)?
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@Nepia looks like it's made up basically of of TKK o Lindisfarne.
Also should we add Marvin Karawana to the midfield options?
@Magpie_in_aus said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
@Nepia looks like it's made up basically of of TKK o Lindisfarne.
Also should we add Marvin Karawana to the midfield options?
Most definitely not. He rates alongside the likes of J Schoonbee and Luke Rooney on the level of consideration for things like this. Where is the down vote button when we need it?
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@Magpie_in_aus said in Ultimate NPC: - Hawkes Bay:
Lets get some contenders first. Don't want to miss any.
Props: Sona, Clint, Edmonds, Crawford ......May/Franks
Hookers: Norm, Hika, AshLocks: Dustin Watts (my fav play when I was young), Bryn, Lokotui, BBBR, Allerdice
Loose Forwards: Dallas Seymour, Gareth, Karl Lowe, Michael Johnson, Mutu, george naoupu, Waldron, Tony LambornHalfbacks: Easy Pick: Chris Eaton
Honarable Mentions: Brad Weber, Kahn, Danny LeeFirst 5: West, Dan W, Matty B
Midfielders: Shoes, Bucky, Fruen, can't think of many others....Nathan MaugerOutside backs: Bucky again, Izzy, Zac, Cunningham,
Brain has given up. Obviously majority of those are from 2000 onwards.
You can't have liked Watts too much, he mostly played 6 for us back in the day.
Also, if we had down votes you'd get two for mention Franks and May in this discussion.
Some of the older players would be: Gordon Falcon, Romana Graham, @Stockcar86 good call on Johnson, Gareth Evans at lock too, Graham Higginson, Horrell of the recent lot, Roger Randle had a few years before being poached by @Hooroo's mob, Ben T if he hasn't already been mentioned, Ken Taylor on the wing, Kaka, Jeff Karika on the flank too - he was an awesome midget, Forster and Pod Turner before they got poached.
@Nepia I agree with you on the Pod Turner mention. Was good enough to captain the Bay at 19 years of age. Can recall being in attendance in Taumaranui for his debut whilst still at school. Dam well got cheated out of the lucky draw for programme numbers, brought four of them and wouldn't you know it the winning number was right in the middle of the sequence of the numbers I brought, only problem was it was not there! We also famously walked in on the KC team meeting at the Taumaranui Cossy Club when we arrived for a feed and a few warm up beers! Correction it might have been called some other name and might even have been the Mananui Club but whichever it was it certainly was one for the memory banks. Can recall our minibus driver told his missus he was taking the day off work to play in a special winter bowls tournament and might be a bit late getting home that night, believe that or not!!!!!!!
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RIght, here's my first draft for the team
15. Israel Dagg
14. Ken Taylor
13. Richard Buckman
12. Matthew Cooper
11. Zac Guildford
10. Peter O'Shaughnessey
9. Danny Lee
8. Richard Turner
7. Peter Winterbottom
6. Dustin Watts
5. Graeme Higginson
4. Brodie Retallick
3. Clint Newlands
2. Norm Hewett- Faka'ānaua (AKA Sona) Taumalolo
