2020 School Rugby

[Kiwiwomble]

@Tim said in 2020 School Rugby:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12360389

i cant argue...but as someone who hasnt lived in dunners for 18 years...i like being able to watch OBHS, sat down and watched them beat Kings last weekend

[Stargazer]

@Kiwiwomble Same. I love watching 1st XV rugby.

I'm also not convinced that broadcasting the games in itself is the problem. If games aren't broadcast or streamed, scouts will still go to games and pick the talent that they want to sign straight out of school. Similarly, the media will still go to games, and write and hype up certain players.

[Kiwiwomble]

@Stargazer said in 2020 School Rugby:

@Kiwiwomble Same. I love watching 1st XV rugby.

I'm also not convinced that broadcasting the games in itself is the problem. If games aren't broadcast or streamed, scouts will still go to games and pick the talent that they want to sign straight out of school. Similarly, the media will still go to games, and write and hype up certain players.

ive said before my enthusiasm is inversely proportional to the rugby pyramid

i'd rather OBHS won the top four or Dunedin RFC won the club comp rather than Otago won the NPC...but i'd rather Otago won the NPC than the Landers won the super comp....but i'd rather the Landers won the super comp than the AB's won another RC (RWC and Bledisloes are different)

I assume its connected with how much you actually played or were connected with a team, actually playing for OBHS/Dunedin v. knowing personally people who played for otago v. just supporting the Landers / AB's

[Magpie_in_aus]

@Kiwiwomble up the mighty sharks!

[Bovidae]

@Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

CENTRAL NORTH ISLAND (CNI)
St Peter's Cambridge v Wesley College to be played on Wednesday

It appears that this game wasn't played today and was cancelled. Bad luck for Wesley but I suppose neither team wanted to play twice in 4 days.

The CNI semis are:
St Paul's Collegiate vs Feilding High School
Whanganui Collegiate vs St Peter's Cambridge

[Stargazer]

2020 Hurricanes U15 Tournament (Girls)
Final
Manukura 33 - 5 St Mary's College

2020 Hurricanes U14 Tournament (Boys)
Final
St Pat's, Wellington 19 - 15 Feilding HS

2020 Super 8 U14 Tournament (Boys)
Final
Hamilton BHS 37 - 15 Rotorua BHS

2020 Super 8 U15 Tournament (Boys)
Final
Hastings BHS beat Hamilton BHS

Traditionals

• Palmerston N BHS 13 - 12 St Pat's Silverstream
• St Bernard’s College 36 - 5 Hato Pāora College

[Bovidae]

Rd 4 of the Super 8 (delayed by Covid-19) will be played next Sat.

Hamilton BHS beat Gisborne BHS 80-5 so will finish as the top qualifier.

The Hamilton BHS 2nd XV did even better winning 103-5.

I don't think either result is good for schoolboy rugby.

[Nepia]

@Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

Rd 4 of the Super 8 (delayed by Covid-19) will be played next Sat.

Hamilton BHS beat Gisborne BHS 80-5 so will finish as the top qualifier.

The Hamilton BHS 2nd XV did even better winning 103-5.

I don't think either result is good for schoolboy rugby.

I think it's a sign of the comp, probably has always been that way. The smaller teams like Gisborne and Hastings are going to take a few shellackings in their down years while Hamilton is basically the Crusaders and 80s era Auckland team rolled into one.

Hastings Boys put a hundy on Tauranga Boys back in the Hika era I think, so hopefully it doesn't do permanent damage to the comp.

[Stargazer]

Results Saturday, 5 September 2020

2020 Rex Kerr Cup (Hurricanes region - girls)
Semi-Final
Hastings Girls' High School 10 - 27 St. Mary’s College (Fri 4 Sep)

Auckland 1A
No games

Harbour 1A
No games (the semi-finals would have been today)

Central North Island
Semi-finals

• St Paul's Coll 34 - 12 Feilding HS
• St Peter's Cambridge 27 - 24 Whanganui Collegiate

Other play-offs

• Wesley Coll v Lindisfarne Coll - 5th/6th place play-off: cancelled
• St John's Hamilton 50 -24 Rathkeale Coll - 7th/8th place play-off
• Francis Douglas MC 12 - 36 St John's Hastings - 9th/10th place play-off

Super 8
Round 7

• Hamilton BHS 80 - 5 Gisborne BHS
• New Plymouth BHS 25 - 22 Napier BHS
• Rotorua BHS 22 - 20 Palmerston North BHS - Rotorua retain the Moascar Cup
• Tauranga BC 7 - 10 Hastings BHS

Wellington Premiership
Round 7

• Tawa Coll 24 - 15 Wairarapa Coll
• Scots Coll 31 - 7 Wellington College
• St Pat’s Wellington 19 - 10 St Bernard's
• Rongotai Coll 36 - 31 Mana Coll
• Aotea Coll 3 - 69 St Pat’s Silverstream

UC Championship
Round 10

• St Thomas College 31 - 27 Shirley BHS (Fri 4 Sep)
• Nelson College 48 - 7 Lincoln combined
• Mid Canterbury combined 19 - 62 St Bedes College
• Waimea combined 11 - 31 Timaru BHS
• Marlborough BC 26 - 5 Aoraki-Roncalli combined
• Rangiora HS 15 - 20 Christchurch BHS
• Christ’s College 31 - 33 St Andrews College

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Otago Premier Schools (Premiership)
Quarter Finals

• Otago BHS 1st XV 69 - 0 Dunstan HS
• King's HS 29 - 23 Southland BHS
• John McGlashan 36 - 0 Otago BHS 2nd XV
• St Kevin's 35 - 25 Mt Aspiring College
• South Otago HS 25 - 17 Waitaki BHS
• Wakatipu BHS 59 - 12 Otago Combined Co-Ed

[shark]

Well, Goon HS ran CBHS close but dipped out, and STAC managed to fend off the Syrups in the battle of the Range Rovers vs the ML350s. Friendly results see St Bedes back on the fringe of the top 4 and they have a pretty easy run home. But CBHS and STAC have a significant break on the balance now and are certainty the teams to beat.

[Bovidae]

@Stargazer said in 2020 School Rugby:

Central North Island
Semi-finals

• St Paul's Coll 34 - 12 Feilding HS
• St Peter's Cambridge 27 - 24 Whanganui Collegiate

Proving that the best of the North section is definitely stronger.

[Bovidae]

Reports that the North Harbour and Auckland competitions are finished for the year.

Expect plenty of year 13 players to think about returning in 2021.

[Magic65]

@Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

Expect plenty of year 13 players to think about returning in 2021.

whats the rule for guys turning 19 next year?

[Bovidae]

@Magic65 From an earlier article on Stuff.

NZSSC eligibility regulations are not defined by year level (or returning) in school sport, they are defined by age.

Most 1st XV competitions require students to be under 18 on January 1 in the year of competition.

However, some have the ability to exercise special dispensations for "a small number" of under 19-year-old players, Carnachan said.

And those dispensations are exactly what several Auckland school boys will be seeking if they do not get to showcase what they can do in year 13.

The likes of Highlanders lock Pari Pari Parkinson and NZ Sevens star Rocky Khan both repeated year 13 and played 1st XV again, before going on to play professionally.

[Higgins]

@Bovidae Surely if the guys are good enough to play professionally in the next few years they will already have been on the radar thus no need to repeat year 13. If not then they will just have to "Conrad Smith" their way up the pecking order. It can still be done coming up through Colts or Premier Club rugby for those not in the system when they leave school.

[Magic65]

@Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

The likes of Highlanders lock Pari Pari Parkinson and NZ Sevens star Rocky Khan both repeated year 13 and played 1st XV again, before going on to play professionally.

was PPP still under 19s when he repeated Y13? Hate to think St Kents got dispensation to play a 6'8" 19 yr old:astonished_face:

[Bovidae]

@Higgins said in 2020 School Rugby:

@Bovidae Surely if the guys are good enough to play professionally in the next few years they will already have been on the radar thus no need to repeat year 13.

I agree, but I suppose from the perception of the kids, and their parents, they feel like it is a missed opportunity. The 5 SR franchises usually have U18 teams and training camps for players to showcase their talent which hasn't happened either AFAIK. The best players will already be signed to provincial academies.

@Magic65 I don't know. You would have to check PPP's age in the year he repeated.

[shark]

Wouldn't a guy have to fail the year in order to repeat, in order to be able to play 1st XV rugby? And wouldn't that in some way be policed, so a bright kid who's a good footy player couldn't just tank for the hell of it and stay on another year? And then if you're that kid, why on Earth would you wanna be the doofus in a school uniform hanging out with all your mates in mufti after school?

[Bovidae]

CENTRAL NORTH ISLAND (CNI)
FINAL
St Peter’s Cambridge 36 v St Paul’s Collegiate 36
3rd v 4th
Whanganui Collegiate 29 v Feilding High School 25

Other play off games
Lindisfarne 29 v St John’s Hamilton 25
Rathkeale 14 v St John’s Hastings 20

SUPER 8
Gisborne 18 v New Plymouth 17
Palmerston North 10 v Tauranga 8
Rotorua 24 v Hastings 14 (Moascar Cup)
Hamilton Boys 43 v Napier 7

WELLINGTON PREMIERSHIP
Wellington College 39 v Wairarapa College 36
St Bernard’s 19 v Rongotai College 23
Mana College 5 v St Pat’s Town 56
Tawa 19 v Aotea College 28
St Pat’s Silverstream 7 v Scots College 5

UC CHAMPIONSHIP
Nelson 26 v Timaru Boys 30 (played last Tuesday)
Marlborough Boys 60 v Mid Canterbury Combined 7
Nelson College 38 v St Andrew’s 24
St Bede’s 31 v Timaru 24
Roncalli 0 v Christchurch Boys 38
St Thomas 24 v Waimea Combined 27
Shirley Boys 10 v Christ’s College 15
Rangiora High 70 v Lincoln Combined 7

OTAGO PREMIER SCHOOLS
Top 4 final
Otago Boys 33 v Kings High 19
Middle 4 final
John McGlashan 18 v St Kevin’s 12
Bottom 4 final
Wakatipu 29 v South Otago 26

[shark]

St Thomas's drop a game they should have won and plummet to 8th. STAC lose another - which must be something like 3 of their last 4 or so - but finish 2nd.

Was this the last round of the UC? Semis next weekend?