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2020 School Rugby

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Magic65 From an earlier article on Stuff.

    NZSSC eligibility regulations are not defined by year level (or returning) in school sport, they are defined by age.
    
    Most 1st XV competitions require students to be under 18 on January 1 in the year of competition.
    
    However, some have the ability to exercise special dispensations for "a small number" of under 19-year-old players, Carnachan said.
    
    And those dispensations are exactly what several Auckland school boys will be seeking if they do not get to showcase what they can do in year 13.
    

    The likes of Highlanders lock Pari Pari Parkinson and NZ Sevens star Rocky Khan both repeated year 13 and played 1st XV again, before going on to play professionally.

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    @Bovidae Surely if the guys are good enough to play professionally in the next few years they will already have been on the radar thus no need to repeat year 13. If not then they will just have to "Conrad Smith" their way up the pecking order. It can still be done coming up through Colts or Premier Club rugby for those not in the system when they leave school.

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      @Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

      The likes of Highlanders lock Pari Pari Parkinson and NZ Sevens star Rocky Khan both repeated year 13 and played 1st XV again, before going on to play professionally.

      was PPP still under 19s when he repeated Y13? Hate to think St Kents got dispensation to play a 6'8" 19 yr old:astonished_face:

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        @Bovidae Surely if the guys are good enough to play professionally in the next few years they will already have been on the radar thus no need to repeat year 13. If not then they will just have to "Conrad Smith" their way up the pecking order. It can still be done coming up through Colts or Premier Club rugby for those not in the system when they leave school.

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        @Higgins said in 2020 School Rugby:

        @Bovidae Surely if the guys are good enough to play professionally in the next few years they will already have been on the radar thus no need to repeat year 13.

        I agree, but I suppose from the perception of the kids, and their parents, they feel like it is a missed opportunity. The 5 SR franchises usually have U18 teams and training camps for players to showcase their talent which hasn't happened either AFAIK. The best players will already be signed to provincial academies.

        @Magic65 I don't know. You would have to check PPP's age in the year he repeated.

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          Wouldn't a guy have to fail the year in order to repeat, in order to be able to play 1st XV rugby? And wouldn't that in some way be policed, so a bright kid who's a good footy player couldn't just tank for the hell of it and stay on another year? And then if you're that kid, why on Earth would you wanna be the doofus in a school uniform hanging out with all your mates in mufti after school?

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            CENTRAL NORTH ISLAND (CNI)
            FINAL
            St Peter’s Cambridge 36 v St Paul’s Collegiate 36
            3rd v 4th
            Whanganui Collegiate 29 v Feilding High School 25

            Other play off games
            Lindisfarne 29 v St John’s Hamilton 25
            Rathkeale 14 v St John’s Hastings 20

            SUPER 8
            Gisborne 18 v New Plymouth 17
            Palmerston North 10 v Tauranga 8
            Rotorua 24 v Hastings 14 (Moascar Cup)
            Hamilton Boys 43 v Napier 7

            WELLINGTON PREMIERSHIP
            Wellington College 39 v Wairarapa College 36
            St Bernard’s 19 v Rongotai College 23
            Mana College 5 v St Pat’s Town 56
            Tawa 19 v Aotea College 28
            St Pat’s Silverstream 7 v Scots College 5

            UC CHAMPIONSHIP
            Nelson 26 v Timaru Boys 30 (played last Tuesday)
            Marlborough Boys 60 v Mid Canterbury Combined 7
            Nelson College 38 v St Andrew’s 24
            St Bede’s 31 v Timaru 24
            Roncalli 0 v Christchurch Boys 38
            St Thomas 24 v Waimea Combined 27
            Shirley Boys 10 v Christ’s College 15
            Rangiora High 70 v Lincoln Combined 7

            OTAGO PREMIER SCHOOLS
            Top 4 final

            Otago Boys 33 v Kings High 19
            Middle 4 final
            John McGlashan 18 v St Kevin’s 12
            Bottom 4 final
            Wakatipu 29 v South Otago 26

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              St Thomas's drop a game they should have won and plummet to 8th. STAC lose another - which must be something like 3 of their last 4 or so - but finish 2nd.

              Was this the last round of the UC? Semis next weekend?

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                St Thomas's drop a game they should have won and plummet to 8th. STAC lose another - which must be something like 3 of their last 4 or so - but finish 2nd.

                Was this the last round of the UC? Semis next weekend?

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                @shark said in 2020 School Rugby:

                Was this the last round of the UC? Semis next weekend?

                Yes, it looks like SFs are next Sat.

                Final table here:
                https://www.sporty.co.nz/ucchampionshipdrawsresultsstandings

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                  No semi final draw though? Presumably 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3

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                    No semi final draw though? Presumably 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3

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                    @shark I don't know how the UC playoffs work but you would assume that is how the SFs would be.

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                      No semi final draw though? Presumably 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3

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                      @shark Here you go.

                      UC Championship semi finals confirmed.
                      
                      Christchurch Boys High School v Rangiora High School
                      St Andrews College v St Bedes College
                      
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                        Highlights of the CNI final. No extra time in school rugby.

                        https://www.facebook.com/1stXVrugby/videos/373389787035730/

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                          CBHS beat Goon HS today, and STAC beat St Bedes in a close one. The two best sides will now meet in the final. St Bede's only really notable win this season was against Christ's around midway through the season before Christ's form really dropped away.

                          CBHS have improved as the season has gone on while STAC declined during and after a 9/9 start but have regained some form latterly. STAC beat CBHS in a TV game which acted as the curtain-raiser to a Crusaders game, so this should be a ding dong battle.

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                            Super 8 semis

                            Hamilton BHS 29 - Napier BHS 18
                            New Plymouth BHS 28 - Rotorua BHS 30

                            Final: Hamilton vs Rotorua

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                              Super 8 semis

                              Hamilton BHS 29 - Napier BHS 18
                              New Plymouth BHS 28 - Rotorua BHS 30

                              Final: Hamilton vs Rotorua

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                              @Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

                              Super 8 semis

                              Hamilton BHS 29 - Napier BHS 18
                              New Plymouth BHS 28 - Rotorua BHS 30

                              Final: Hamilton vs Rotorua

                              Did Hastings BHS, Tauranga BHS, Taupo BHS, Gisborne BHS and Palmerston North BHS bomb out?

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                                @Bovidae said in 2020 School Rugby:

                                Super 8 semis

                                Hamilton BHS 29 - Napier BHS 18
                                New Plymouth BHS 28 - Rotorua BHS 30

                                Final: Hamilton vs Rotorua

                                Did Hastings BHS, Tauranga BHS, Taupo BHS, Gisborne BHS and Palmerston North BHS bomb out?

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                                @shark Retorical question?

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                                  Super 8 final:
                                  Hamilton BHS 26 - Rotorua BHS 13

                                  There was a suggestion that RBHS was going to put the Moascar Cup up for grabs in the final but that didn't happen.

                                  UC Championship final:
                                  St Andrew's College 35 - Christchurch BHS 26

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                                    Good game, the UC final. CBHS had the benefit of a strong Northerly at their backs in the first half and got out to a 20-0 lead. I thought STAC were stuffed at that stage, and expected those CBHS floggers to run away with it. But STAC came back and scored two quick tries to go into the break at 14-20. In the second stanza St Andrews took full advantage of the breeze and played some good football. I thought Boys High still had them at set piece but STAC had belief, and their 10 controlled things manfully.

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                                      I didn't see the game so will try to watch a replay. I note that Rod McIntosh is STAC's Director of High Performance Sport. I remember him when he played for Waikato in the late 1980s to early 1990s, out of the now defunct Ngāruawāhia club. He later spent some time playing and coaching in HK.

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                                          I have watched a replay of the UC Championship final, paying particular attention to the players that were selected for the NZ Schools squad. This highlights the difficulty of comparing players in completely separate competitions because I don't believe there can be much co-ordination from the selectors amongst the regions.

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