Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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Interesting note - Deans and Cheika both won their first Bledisloe games as coach of Aus.
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Interesting note - Deans and Cheika both won their first Bledisloe games as coach of Aus.
Both of those games were in Australia though, it's worth pointing out.
The odds are juicy for a reason. We've had a similar post-RWC turnover of key positions and coaches. Ours may prove more beneficial in the long run, but we're very much at square one of a 3-4 year process.
Expect to see a few inexperienced youngsters thrown in the deep end, a few new faces and combinations that may still be a year or two away. Guys like Noah Lolesio, Harry Wilson, Irae Simone, Filipo Daugunu.
We won't win, and supporters have their expectations suitably low. What we want to see is attitude - work ethic, enthusiasm, mongrel. It may lack polish (which will see us lose in the end), but at least if the attitude is there we will be happy. Or, as happy as you can be when you lose to NZ.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Interesting note - Deans and Cheika both won their first Bledisloe games as coach of Aus.
Both of those games were in Australia though, it's worth pointing out.
The odds are juicy for a reason. We've had a similar post-RWC turnover of key positions and coaches. Ours may prove more beneficial in the long run, but we're very much at square one of a 3-4 year process.
Expect to see a few inexperienced youngsters thrown in the deep end, a few new faces and combinations that may still be a year or two away. Guys like Noah Lolesio, Harry Wilson, Irae Simone, Filipo Daugunu.
We won't win, and supporters have their expectations suitably low. What we want to see is attitude - work ethic, enthusiasm, mongrel. It may lack polish (which will see us lose in the end), but at least if the attitude is there we will be happy. Or, as happy as you can be when you lose to NZ.
@barbarian Dave Rennie.
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I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
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@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
You try meeting 8 people at Aikmans at 3pm on a Sunday and escape unscathed. You'd have to be a bit of a dry balls not to tuck in a little.
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@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
You try meeting 8 people at Aikmans at 3pm on a Sunday and escape unscathed. You'd have to be a bit of a dry balls not to tuck in a little.
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
You try meeting 8 people at Aikmans at 3pm on a Sunday and escape unscathed. You'd have to be a bit of a dry balls not to tuck in a little.
You can’t go that early though and you have to leave right on full time cos the kids need looking after. It’s not the 80s. You can’t just leave them in the car with coke and chippies.
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@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
You try meeting 8 people at Aikmans at 3pm on a Sunday and escape unscathed. You'd have to be a bit of a dry balls not to tuck in a little.
You can’t go that early though and you have to leave right on full time cos the kids need looking after. It’s not the 80s. You can’t just leave them in the car with coke and chippies.
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@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I hate the 4pm Sunday kick off times. Such a fucken shit time for people with young kids. Alternative is to watch at a bar with mates and be hungover at work to start the week.
Grumpy.
You must be a terrible drinker if a 90 minute session is enough to get you hungover the next day.
I think Sunday avo is an outstanding time particularly in the warmer more bbq friendly months.
You try meeting 8 people at Aikmans at 3pm on a Sunday and escape unscathed. You'd have to be a bit of a dry balls not to tuck in a little.
You can’t go that early though and you have to leave right on full time cos the kids need looking after. It’s not the 80s. You can’t just leave them in the car with coke and chippies.
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Sparky's Team
Moody, Taylor, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, J Barrett.
Subs: Aumua, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, B.Barrett, Goodhue
@sparky I see little value in Goodhue off the bench he starts or isnt in the 23 IMO.
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Sparky's Team
Moody, Taylor, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, J Barrett.
Subs: Aumua, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, B.Barrett, Goodhue
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Sparky's Team
Moody, Taylor, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, J Barrett.
Subs: Aumua, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, B.Barrett, Goodhue
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@sparky I see little value in Goodhue off the bench he starts or isnt in the 23 IMO.
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@sparky I see little value in Goodhue off the bench he starts or isnt in the 23 IMO.
Quite like @sparky s team. I would probably have come up with the same.
With RIoane starting and BB on bench, the back three are well covered. Goodhue can either come in if Ioane has to move or if either of the starting midfielders is having an off day.
We need midfield cover on the bench. Not an area we can cover with an allrounder.Maybe ALB could go bench, mainly due to Rennie knowing his game so well.
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Canes4life's team:
- Moody, 2. Taylor, 3. Tu'ungafasi, 4. Tuipolotu, 5. Whitelock, 6. Sotutu, 7. Cane, 8. Savea (only because Cane is captain) - if he wasn't then I would go Grace, Savea Sotutu) 9. Smith, 10. Mo'unga, 11. Ioane 12. ALB 13. Goodhue 14. Jordan 15. J Barrett 16. Aumua (if Coles is out) 17. Tu'unukuafe 18. Lomax 19. Vaa'i 20. Grace 21. Perenara 22. B Barrett 23. Reece
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Canes4life's team:
- Moody, 2. Taylor, 3. Tu'ungafasi, 4. Tuipolotu, 5. Whitelock, 6. Sotutu, 7. Cane, 8. Savea (only because Cane is captain) - if he wasn't then I would go Grace, Savea Sotutu) 9. Smith, 10. Mo'unga, 11. Ioane 12. ALB 13. Goodhue 14. Jordan 15. J Barrett 16. Aumua (if Coles is out) 17. Tu'unukuafe 18. Lomax 19. Vaa'i 20. Grace 21. Perenara 22. B Barrett 23. Reece
@Canes4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Canes4life's team:
- Moody, 2. Taylor, 3. Tu'ungafasi, 4. Tuipolotu, 5. Whitelock, 6. Sotutu, 7. Cane, 8. Savea (only because Cane is captain) - if he wasn't then I would go Grace, Savea Sotutu) 9. Smith, 10. Mo'unga, 11. Ioane 12. ALB 13. Goodhue 14. Jordan 15. J Barrett 16. Aumua (if Coles is out) 17. Tu'unukuafe 18. Lomax 19. Vaa'i 20. Grace 21. Perenara 22. B Barrett 23. Reece
That's a fucked loose forward mix
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@Canes4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Canes4life's team:
- Moody, 2. Taylor, 3. Tu'ungafasi, 4. Tuipolotu, 5. Whitelock, 6. Sotutu, 7. Cane, 8. Savea (only because Cane is captain) - if he wasn't then I would go Grace, Savea Sotutu) 9. Smith, 10. Mo'unga, 11. Ioane 12. ALB 13. Goodhue 14. Jordan 15. J Barrett 16. Aumua (if Coles is out) 17. Tu'unukuafe 18. Lomax 19. Vaa'i 20. Grace 21. Perenara 22. B Barrett 23. Reece
That's a fucked loose forward mix
@Crucial it's only fucked because Cane automatically gets selected so you need to fit everyone else around him. Savea is too good to bench IMO, so I have left him at 8, and Sotutu is someone that I think could move to 6 fairly easily.
Take Cane away and my loose forward trio would be 6. Grace 7. Savea 8. Sotutu. If they selected Boshier I would have him on the bench aswell.
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Sparky's Team
Moody, Taylor, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, J Barrett.
Subs: Aumua, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, B.Barrett, Goodhue
@sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Sparky's Team
Moody, Taylor, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, J Barrett.
Subs: Aumua, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, B.Barrett, Goodhue
probably wouldn't argue with much, maybe Reece on the right but a bit of a coin flip
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@Crucial it's only fucked because Cane automatically gets selected so you need to fit everyone else around him. Savea is too good to bench IMO, so I have left him at 8, and Sotutu is someone that I think could move to 6 fairly easily.
Take Cane away and my loose forward trio would be 6. Grace 7. Savea 8. Sotutu. If they selected Boshier I would have him on the bench aswell.
@Canes4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial it's only fucked because Cane automatically gets selected so you need to fit everyone else around him. Savea is too good to bench IMO, so I have left him at 8, and Sotutu is someone that I think could move to 6 fairly easily.
Take Cane away and my loose forward trio would be 6. Grace 7. Savea 8. Sotutu. If they selected Boshier I would have him on the bench aswell.
I suppose you think Cullen could move to 13 fairly easily as well?
No way in our home advantage Bled game do you start two untried (at test level) loose forwards.
Especially Grace, who deserves his squad selection but has very light game experience at top level. He needs to be introduced off the bench or against a lesser team.
