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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    We were lucky to draw that, Oz the better, more organised team.

    Reiko will get rightly criticised for a sloppy grounding, but that is not the main problem tonight.

    Mounga was awful, same with Bridge, TJ and many others. We were good at times in the forwards and the backs just pissed it away.

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    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    We were lucky to draw that, Oz the better, more organised team.

    Reiko will get rightly criticised for a sloppy grounding, but that is not the main problem tonight.

    Mounga was awful, same with Bridge, TJ and many others. We were good at times in the forwards and the backs just pissed it away.

    Apart from his grounding he was quite incisive

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      Sack MacCloud. Shit player, worse coach.

      Frizzell in the All Blacks is just stupid.

      What’s with the frizell rants? He’s well down the list of people that need to improve

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      @Kiwiwomble true but our problems in general are at 6 and 8 where her plays, and also with the head coach.

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      • StagS Stag

        @Gunner Clarke only played 15 mins, he was good but not that good and his cock up off the post almost cost us the game

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        @Stag said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        @Gunner Clarke only played 15 mins, he was good but not that good and his cock up off the post almost cost us the game

        He was bloody good in those 15 minutes I thought

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          Never tired to set a platform

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          • StagS Stag

            @Gunner Clarke only played 15 mins, he was good but not that good and his cock up off the post almost cost us the game

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            @Stag said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            @Gunner Clarke only played 15 mins, he was good but not that good and his cock up off the post almost cost us the game

            He was a hell of a lot better than the innocuous placeholder he replaced.

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              Smith and Cane were class, the rest of the starters the usual mixed bag.

              This is what the team is with most of the security blankets from 18-19 (Beaudy magic, Ben Smith at the back, Rettalick having a monster) out of the mix.

              We have very few world class players.

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              • TimT Tim

                Selecting players on garbage "workrate" stats has to stop. If you can't hit hard you shouldn't be there. Frizzell is the new Luke Whitelock.

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                @Tim I agree. Was Savea actually playing as well???

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                  Stats

                  Best tacklers

                  Tackles - missed tackles
                  Sam Cane 25 - 0
                  Joe Moody 16 - 0
                  Jack Goodhue 15 - 1
                  Sam Whitelock 15 - 1
                  Shannon Frizell 15 - 2

                  Ofa 14 - 4 (most missed tackles)

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @Kiwiwomble Nonsense. Our fringe defence was garbage and Australia made big gains down the blindside all day. Frizzell is a clear weakness.

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                    @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    @Kiwiwomble Nonsense. Our fringe defence was garbage and Australia made big gains down the blindside all day. Frizzell is a clear weakness.

                    Paps or Grace has to come in for Frizell and Hoskins for Ardie.

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                    • StagS Stag

                      @Tim I agree. Was Savea actually playing as well???

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                      @Stag Savea sure isn't an 8, and it showed alright! His defence was chop.

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                      • broughieB broughie

                        @Kiwiwomble true but our problems in general are at 6 and 8 where her plays, and also with the head coach.

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                        @broughie said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @Kiwiwomble true but our problems in general are at 6 and 8 where her plays, and also with the head coach.

                        I thought most of the backline was a much bigger weakness than the loosies, frizell had more tackles than cane at half time

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Kiwiwomble Nonsense. Our fringe defence was garbage and Australia made big gains down the blindside all day. Frizzell is a clear weakness.

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                          @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Kiwiwomble Nonsense. Our fringe defence was garbage and Australia made big gains down the blindside all day. Frizzell is a clear weakness.

                          I don't think he was terrible, but neither do I think he added much.

                          Pur forwards were not any harder than last year. And that was substandard

                          Cane is gutted. Easily our best today.

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                            @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Kiwiwomble Nonsense. Our fringe defence was garbage and Australia made big gains down the blindside all day. Frizzell is a clear weakness.

                            Paps or Grace has to come in for Frizell and Hoskins for Ardie.

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                            @akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Kiwiwomble Nonsense. Our fringe defence was garbage and Australia made big gains down the blindside all day. Frizzell is a clear weakness.

                            Paps or Grace has to come in for Frizell and Hoskins for Ardie.

                            Absolutely.

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                            • S Steven Harris

                              Caleb Clark nailed down a starting position in my opinion , so strong

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                              @Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              Caleb Clark nailed down a starting position in my opinion , so strong

                              He nailed down a starting position before the test started. Picking Bridge ahead of him is just braindead bullshit. There's a lot of daylight between those two players.

                              Worse still they paired Bridge up with DMac and Jordie. We had no variety and no real power in our back three.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                Stats

                                Best tacklers

                                Tackles - missed tackles
                                Sam Cane 25 - 0
                                Joe Moody 16 - 0
                                Jack Goodhue 15 - 1
                                Sam Whitelock 15 - 1
                                Shannon Frizell 15 - 2

                                Ofa 14 - 4 (most missed tackles)

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                                @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                Stats

                                Best tacklers

                                Tackles - missed tackles
                                Sam Cane 25 - 0
                                Joe Moody 16 - 0
                                Jack Goodhue 15 - 1
                                Sam Whitelock 15 - 1
                                Shannon Frizell 15 - 2

                                Ofa 14 - 4 (most missed tackles)

                                Sam Cane is a monster!

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  Stats

                                  Best tacklers

                                  Tackles - missed tackles
                                  Sam Cane 25 - 0
                                  Joe Moody 16 - 0
                                  Jack Goodhue 15 - 1
                                  Sam Whitelock 15 - 1
                                  Shannon Frizell 15 - 2

                                  Ofa 14 - 4 (most missed tackles)

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                                  @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  Stats

                                  Best tacklers

                                  Tackles - missed tackles
                                  Sam Cane 25 - 0
                                  Joe Moody 16 - 0
                                  Jack Goodhue 15 - 1
                                  Sam Whitelock 15 - 1
                                  Shannon Frizell 15 - 2

                                  Ofa 14 - 4 (most missed tackles)

                                  Cane or Savea?

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    @Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    Caleb Clark nailed down a starting position in my opinion , so strong

                                    He nailed down a starting position before the test started. Picking Bridge ahead of him is just braindead bullshit. There's a lot of daylight between those two players.

                                    Worse still they paired Bridge up with DMac and Jordie. We had no variety and no real power in our back three.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    Caleb Clark nailed down a starting position in my opinion , so strong

                                    He nailed down a starting position before the test started. Picking Bridge ahead of him is just braindead bullshit. There's a lot of daylight between those two players.

                                    Worse still they paired Bridge up with DMac and Jordie. We had no variety and no real power in our back three.

                                    Exactly why I was worried about the safety first selections. We have gone backwards since 2019.

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                                      Also the 1994 streak goes next week unless Aussie really under perform. There is nothing from the past few years that shows they can make the necessary adjustments.

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @broughie said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @Kiwiwomble true but our problems in general are at 6 and 8 where her plays, and also with the head coach.

                                        I thought most of the backline was a much bigger weakness than the loosies, frizell had more tackles than cane at half time

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                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @broughie said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @Kiwiwomble true but our problems in general are at 6 and 8 where her plays, and also with the head coach.

                                        I thought most of the backline was a much bigger weakness than the loosies, frizell had more tackles than cane at half time

                                        Because they were all out of position

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                                          Cane was fantastic as a player and average as a captain

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