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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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    At least Foster has kept his powder dry.

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      At least Foster has kept his powder dry.

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        @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

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        • M Machpants

          At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300129784/all-blacks-vs-australia-player-ratings-sam-cane-stands-up-but-others-struggle

          Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?

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          @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300129784/all-blacks-vs-australia-player-ratings-sam-cane-stands-up-but-others-struggle

          Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?

          Player ratings are meant to be just that. Not a reflection on disapointment over the overall team.
          Cane deserves way more than a 6. That was a seriously impressive performance.

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          • juniorJ junior

            @akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            I thought the big work on after the semi was to improve our physicality. We looked even less physical than last year.

            That and having a clear game plan would have made a big difference

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            @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            @akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            I thought the big work on after the semi was to improve our physicality. We looked even less physical than last year.

            That and having a clear game plan would have made a big difference

            Isn't "just run about a bit" a good gameplan?

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

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              @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

              Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

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              • chimoausC chimoaus

                @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

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                @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                  Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

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                  @chimoaus just have to win the series outright - which is why the draw is as good as a win for us (away from home no less).

                  Now we only need to win two to win the Bled.

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                  • M Machpants

                    At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300129784/all-blacks-vs-australia-player-ratings-sam-cane-stands-up-but-others-struggle

                    Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?

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                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300129784/all-blacks-vs-australia-player-ratings-sam-cane-stands-up-but-others-struggle

                    Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?

                    Paul Cully gives Sam Cane the same rating as Ardie Savea? Are one of you fluffers this clown in real life?

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                      Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                      No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

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                      @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                      Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                      No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

                      The Bled is three games. I'm unsure if it is determined by points difference in the event of a draw and a win apiece or if the holder keeps it.

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                        I thought Savea was mostly absent. Certainly made a few tackles but wasn't very Savea-like

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                          Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                          No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

                          The Bled is three games. I'm unsure if it is determined by points difference in the event of a draw and a win apiece or if the holder keeps it.

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                          @antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                          Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                          No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

                          The Bled is three games. I'm unsure if it is determined by points difference in the event of a draw and a win apiece or if the holder keeps it.

                          Oh right - next week then the 31st.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                            Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                            No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

                            The Bled is three games. I'm unsure if it is determined by points difference in the event of a draw and a win apiece or if the holder keeps it.

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                            @antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?

                            Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?

                            No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.

                            The Bled is three games. I'm unsure if it is determined by points difference in the event of a draw and a win apiece or if the holder keeps it.

                            Ok so if we win in Auckland we retain it then I assume.

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                              There's a 4th Bledisloe after the 31st

                              7 November is the 4th Bledisloe.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                There's a 4th Bledisloe after the 31st

                                7 November is the 4th Bledisloe.

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                                @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                There's a 4th Bledisloe after the 31st

                                7 November is the 4th Bledisloe.

                                Ok, so the Aussies could lose next week and if they win their 2 on home soil they get the Trophy 2-1

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                                  Great performance from cane kept us in the game. How does cully rate him just a 6? Clarke looked good too.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300129784/all-blacks-vs-australia-player-ratings-sam-cane-stands-up-but-others-struggle

                                    Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?

                                    Player ratings are meant to be just that. Not a reflection on disapointment over the overall team.
                                    Cane deserves way more than a 6. That was a seriously impressive performance.

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                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300129784/all-blacks-vs-australia-player-ratings-sam-cane-stands-up-but-others-struggle

                                    Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?

                                    Player ratings are meant to be just that. Not a reflection on disapointment over the overall team.
                                    Cane deserves way more than a 6. That was a seriously impressive performance.

                                    Fake news to quote one American President.

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      Looks like it will be wet with 40 kph winds.

                                      ABs by 13.

                                      Hoping for a repeat of 96

                                      96 was old school balls, muddy fields and an absolutely unprotected stadium. Athletic park was amazing when the weather was good, but goddamn when it was bad it was awful. Still little better rugby watching than the Mallard Stand.

                                      But that weather was truly atrocious, and to pull ou the skills on a day like that was remarkable. I was i ntown, but couldn't land a ticket at the time (and didn't try particularly hard, given the weather)

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                                      @nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      Still little better rugby watching than the Mallard Stand.

                                      Only the Millenium Stadium comes close.

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                                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        There's a 4th Bledisloe after the 31st

                                        7 November is the 4th Bledisloe.

                                        Ok, so the Aussies could lose next week and if they win their 2 on home soil they get the Trophy 2-1

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                                        @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        There's a 4th Bledisloe after the 31st

                                        7 November is the 4th Bledisloe.

                                        Ok, so the Aussies could lose next week and if they win their 2 on home soil they get the Trophy 2-1

                                        Yes. Drawn series, holder keeps it, but Ozzie have to win next 2 of three games. Thus a draw as good as a win for Oz, cos if they lost this they'd have to win the next three. Now they only have to win 2 of the next 3, same as us

                                        Conversely a second draw counts as a win for us, then we only have to win one of the other two games, haha

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                                          So much anger in here! Wasn't this entirely predicted? We are ALWAYS sloppy 1st up, always. And with some average selections and a heap of new combinations, it was always going to be a struggle. New lock combo, new loose forward combo, new 12/13, new back 3. What the fuck did we expect?

                                          But it doesn't matter, we are going to bring the physicality back! Look out for the mighty Ardie comin' at ya! Here comes Patty T with a cheap lazy shoulder to let you know who's boss!

                                          Lots of folk here giving Smith kudos, and while I'd admit he wasn't bad, I certainly didn't think he was great - 1st half especially he seemed to revert to that late-career half back trait of taking 2 steps before passing. And why the fuck is it so easy to identify that kicking high in that breeze is a good tactic after 90 minutes of rugby but its impossible for you or Richie or the coaches to think of before/during the fucking match???

                                          Frustrating week, predictably so in hindsight.

                                          That Cane bloke looks like one for the future though, could be world class one day

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