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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    dogmeat
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tubbyj" data-cid="563416" data-time="1457485879">
    <p>I think it would be a real coup for the Highlanders to get him but the Crusaders are mad if they have the option to get him back and choose not to.<br>
     <br>
    If Deans returned you wouldn't see the Blues hogging 3 quality 6s in Kaino, Luatua and Akira Ioane while the Crusaders lack ball runner to bend the line with Jordan Taufua starting when he should be the bench/impact player.<br>
     <br>
    As much as Hansen may not like to admit it with Deans back at the Crusaders the All Blacks would have a much wider pool of talent developed up to Super rugby level quicker.</p>
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    Revisionism taken to its most absurd levels. The Crusaders under Deans hogged players in all sorts of positions.  This strategy only failed when he pissed players off and they left.<br>
     <br>
    As for your final point, it's pure conjecture. Super rugby as has been pointed out has changed a lot and Deans has been out of it for a looong time.<br>
     <br>
    No issues at all with Dean's coaching record at the Crusaders but there is a very long list of very good players that were a mainstay of his success that were with the franchise before he took over, including the following AB's<br>
     <span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Mark Mayerhofler</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Con Barrell</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Todd Blackadder</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Daryl Gibson</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Mark Hammett</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Scott Robertson</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Norm Maxwell</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Justin Marshall</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Leon MacDonald</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Andrew Mehrtens</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Reuben Thorne</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Norm Berryman</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Greg Feek</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Dave Hewett</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Chris Jack</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Caleb Ralph</span></span><br><span><span style="font-family:calibri;">Greg Somerville</span></span></p>

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    <p>Can't be bothered going through the list 1 by 1 but a few of those players came down here when Wayne smith was coach and Deans was manager.<br><br>
    Smith himself has said one of robbies best points was his eye for young talent</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tubbyj" data-cid="563416" data-time="1457485879">
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    <p>I think it would be a real coup for the Highlanders to get him but the Crusaders are mad if they have the option to get him back and choose not to.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If Deans returned you wouldn't see the Blues hogging 3 quality 6s in Kaino, Luatua and Akira Ioane while the Crusaders lack ball runner to bend the line with Jordan Taufua starting when he should be the bench/impact player.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Doubt Blake Gibson would be on the Blues roster either TBH. Doubt Otere Black would be wasting his time on the hurricanes bench either.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As much as Hansen may not like to admit it with Deans back at the Crusaders the All Blacks would have a much wider pool of talent developed up to Super rugby level quicker.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Ioane is a natural 8 isnt he ? </p>

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    African Monkey
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="563400" data-time="1457483080">
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    <p>Had no problems coaching against NZ although as we know their is a breed of Cantabs who are Canterbury first, second and third.<br><br>
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    <p>Haha got that right.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="563400" data-time="1457483080">
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    <p>Had no problems coaching against NZ although as we know their is a breed of Cantabs who are Canterbury first, second and third.<br>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Blood is thicker than water.</p>

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    mooshld
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Don Frye" data-cid="563443" data-time="1457499814">
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    <p>Blood is thicker than water.</p>
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    <p>The actual full quote is "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" Which in fact means the opposite. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But yeah being a cantab I know the type, and there are loads of them.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="563428" data-time="1457492188"><p>
    Wow, I'm flabbergasted there is a province before country lot. I love HB, love the Magpies, but the ABs are first, Magpies 2nd, clubs and then Super.</p></blockquote>This is a tough one. I think I go club, ABs, Northland.<br><br>
    Buy then it gets tricky if I think about which I'd prefer to win more this year, Joe Morgan Memorial Trophy, Rugby Championship or The Whatever The Fuck It Is Now Cup (NPC).<br>
    Because the last time Northland won anything that wasn't a fucking kitchen utensil was maybe close to 20 years ago, I think I'd take the NPC win. ABs win the Rugby championship 9 times out of 10, and my club won the comp back to back in 2011/2012, so I could live with waiting another year to win that again.<br>
    Oh how I dream of a golden era for the Taniwha. Alas, I fear when my son is old enough to listen to my stories of when we beat the star studded Vikings in the 2nd division final, he won't believe me - it'll just be too unbelievable that Northland could ever have won anything.

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    <p>If I had to swap the AB's success for Wellingtons, I know which I'd choose. If I wanted that kinda of a shit record for the AB's I could always support Australia...</p>

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
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    #30

    For me it's ABs first, second and third. I get behind my Super and Domestic teams but when they lose I don't cry. When the ABs lose I have an emotional break down.

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    If it would guarantee AB success for all time I would be happy for the Canes, Wellington, 7s team, Black Caps, Olympic team and All Whites to never win a single thing again.

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  • SiamS Offline
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    #32

    <p>Me thinks people gettin too blase about our recent conquests</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>What if there's a johnny foreigner in your local side or (shudder) an ocker</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Is treason still a capital offence?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Support the Highlanders - best of both worlds!!  </p>

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    Is odd actually, I am more emotionally invested in Northland, so get more upset when they lose (I know right) but get over it cos, well....ABs I guess having the expectation and it being fulfilled brings complacency and if the ABs were losing more it'd start grating too. But then I guess I also actually attend more Northland games, I suppose if I was able to attend more AB games too, I still recall the walk from Twickers in 99...

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    I am supportive of the idea of Robbie Deans returning to coach in NZ. The poor quality of the sides coached by Cotter and Schmidt suggest to me they are a miles away from being good enough to coach the All Blacks. If Steve Hansen really is going to quit in 2017, then a wiser, older Robbie Deans could well be the best man to take over.

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    Virgil
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="563554" data-time="1457560984"><p>If Steve Hansen really is going to quit in 2017, then a wiser, older Robbie Deans could well be the best man to take over.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    I really fucken hope not.

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    <p>Anyone but Rennie :)</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="563588" data-time="1457568338">
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    <p>Anyone but Rennie :)</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Think of this way - if Rennie coaches the ABs he won't be coaching the Chiefs, who have rather owned the Crusaders during Rennie's tenure  🙂 </p>

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    <p>If the rumours about the strained relationship between Deans and Tew are true, he's no chance of coaching the ABs again.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="563628" data-time="1457573402"><p>
    If the rumours about the strained relationship between Deans and Tew are true, he's no chance of coaching the ABs again.</p></blockquote>
    I really fucken hope so.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="563624" data-time="1457572835"><p>Think of this way - if Rennie coaches the ABs he won't be coaching the Chiefs, who have rather owned the Crusaders during Rennie's tenure :)</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    We live in hope for the future because Blackadder's going...... 🙂

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="563588" data-time="1457568338">
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    <p>Anyone but Rennie :)</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Why? For pissy shark type reasons of Chiefs hate or because you don't think he's a good coach.</p>

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