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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @Duluth said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    Blues fans know he very often dives like that.

    Yes it's always annoyed me.

    I've been surprised that Blues/AB coaches haven't corrected it. He should've been criticised by his coaches everytime regardless of if the grounding was legal. This habit goes back through his entire career, so I wonder if that was happening

    Would be interesting to know. But sometimes it takes a massive stuff up that has more consequence to get change.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    Would be interesting to know. But sometimes it takes a massive stuff up that has more consequence to get change.

    I'd like to think the AB's would:

    1. notice something that obvious
    2. make an effort to eradicate it before it has a big consequence

    It might explain Foster's muted reaction

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      Would be interesting to know. But sometimes it takes a massive stuff up that has more consequence to get change.

      I'd like to think the AB's would:

      1. notice something that obvious
      2. make an effort to eradicate it before it has a big consequence

      It might explain Foster's muted reaction

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      @Duluth said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      Would be interesting to know. But sometimes it takes a massive stuff up that has more consequence to get change.

      I'd like to think the AB's would:

      1. notice something that obvious
      2. make an effort to eradicate it before it has a big consequence

      It might explain Foster's muted reaction

      I’d hope so to, but I guess we don’t know.

      Silence could mean that they have worked on it and he reverted to type and this still happened and not productive to call it out. Or they haven’t and he’s being sheepish.

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        Hopefully this is the wake-up call Rieko needs to change the way he scores tries.

        A demonstration of his rehabilitation on Sunday would be greatly appreciated. 😉

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          For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

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          • ARHSA ARHS

            For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

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            @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

            Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

              Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

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              @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

              Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

              Is that your masked selection for Sevu? 🤙

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                The worst bit about Roane's grounding was watching Daugunu, on debut, absolutely school him in this regard.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Hopefully this is the wake-up call Rieko needs to change the way he scores tries.

                  A demonstration of his rehabilitation on Sunday would be greatly appreciated. 😉

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                  @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  Hopefully this is the wake-up call Rieko needs to change the way he scores tries.

                  A demonstration of his rehabilitation on Sunday would be greatly appreciated. 😉

                  Would be great for him to come on in the last 20 and score a try of two

                  [incoming]

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                    It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

                      Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

                      Is that your masked selection for Sevu? 🤙

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

                      Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

                      Is that your masked selection for Sevu? 🤙

                      I never really thought of him as quick, more a stepper. Quicker than NMS though.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

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                        @Bones yep given how high the ball bounced i thought straight away that he had stuffed it.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

                          Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

                          Is that your masked selection for Sevu? 🤙

                          I never really thought of him as quick, more a stepper. Quicker than NMS though.

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                          @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          For punishment how about they make him pass to his unmarked winger, and remain in position defensively. I think he has other work-ons to concentrate on.

                          Are they going to put a fast wing outside him this week? 😉

                          Is that your masked selection for Sevu? 🤙

                          I never really thought of him as quick, more a stepper. Quicker than NMS though.

                          He's quicker than Jordie and Bridge!

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

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                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

                            No doubt losing it can make it bounce higher than if you hammer it when holding it right in the middle and keep your hand there. But its not evidence on its own. I remember scoring once and my hand was off centre on the ball and the fucking thing bounced waist high. Luckily the ref was right there.

                            I thought his grounding was horrible but probably ok technically. But old news now.

                            On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

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                            • voodooV voodoo

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

                              No doubt losing it can make it bounce higher than if you hammer it when holding it right in the middle and keep your hand there. But its not evidence on its own. I remember scoring once and my hand was off centre on the ball and the fucking thing bounced waist high. Luckily the ref was right there.

                              I thought his grounding was horrible but probably ok technically. But old news now.

                              On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

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                              @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

                              Almost like we were watching a guy in his test (starting) centre debut, with a guy inside him having his test (starting) second-five debut and a guy outside him having his second start at wing.

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                              • voodooV voodoo

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

                                No doubt losing it can make it bounce higher than if you hammer it when holding it right in the middle and keep your hand there. But its not evidence on its own. I remember scoring once and my hand was off centre on the ball and the fucking thing bounced waist high. Luckily the ref was right there.

                                I thought his grounding was horrible but probably ok technically. But old news now.

                                On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

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                                @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                No doubt losing it can make it bounce higher than if you hammer it when holding it right in the middle and keep your hand there. But its not evidence on its own. I remember scoring once and my hand was off centre on the ball and the fucking thing bounced waist high. Luckily the ref was right there.

                                And yeah no shit but to be 100% certain it's a try because it bounced is ridiculous.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

                                  Almost like we were watching a guy in his test (starting) centre debut, with a guy inside him having his test (starting) second-five debut and a guy outside him having his second start at wing.

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                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

                                  Almost like we were watching a guy in his test (starting) centre debut, with a guy inside him having his test (starting) second-five debut and a guy outside him having his second start at wing.

                                  Almost, almost.

                                  Wait...

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    No doubt losing it can make it bounce higher than if you hammer it when holding it right in the middle and keep your hand there. But its not evidence on its own. I remember scoring once and my hand was off centre on the ball and the fucking thing bounced waist high. Luckily the ref was right there.

                                    And yeah no shit but to be 100% certain it's a try because it bounced is ridiculous.

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                                    @Bones someone said that? Yeah, that's odd.

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                                    • voodooV voodoo

                                      @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

                                      No doubt losing it can make it bounce higher than if you hammer it when holding it right in the middle and keep your hand there. But its not evidence on its own. I remember scoring once and my hand was off centre on the ball and the fucking thing bounced waist high. Luckily the ref was right there.

                                      I thought his grounding was horrible but probably ok technically. But old news now.

                                      On his defensive "error " that led to the try in the corner, I think that was more a lack of combination than anything else. Yeah he crabbed in, but he was fast enough to recover (and he did). JB just didn't trust him to get there, so was too narrow and that flowed on 1 more slot out. If JB had trusted Reiko, it could have been different.

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                                      @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

                                      I thought his grounding was horrible but probably ok technically. But old news now.

                                      Still old news, but I just watched it again, and I've now convinced myself that he dropped it.

                                      Sobering up sucks arse

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                                        I remember being furious with Dagg when he showboated in the final seconds of Tri-Nations decider, (2010 I think) also BB against Ireland in the test after the US loss. Both got away with it but I was filthy that they put the game in the balance just to showboat. Both apologized straight after the game if I remember right.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          It's funny how differently we all see things though. I remember reading someone in the match thread being irate because he clearly scored and you could tell because the ball bounced. To my mind a ball is a lot more likely to bounce if you throw/drop it than if you place it.

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                                          @Bones to me it was a muted bounce like pressure, albeit little, was applied.

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