Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18
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@Chris-B said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Tim said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Our lineout looks pretty vulnerable. A skinny rookie lock, no targets at 7 or 8, and an unproven six (is he any good as a target?).
Sotutu should be starting at 8, and would give an option.
Ta$man has used Frizell at lock quite frequently. He made the lineout steal on Sunday that led to our first try.
But, you're right - by my reckoning we've probably got our 4th and 8th choice locks starting.
Retallick, Whitelock, Barrett, Tuipolotu, Dickson, Strange, Parkinson Vaa'i.
Everything after Retallic is ordinary, and if you take late 2019 Retallick, then it's all ordinary.
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@Frank said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Is there provision in Foster's contract for him to fired after one year?
Asking for a surfer friend and my mate in Japan.
I haven't surfed in a years, nor am I a mate in Japan but I would like to meet these people.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Everything after Retallic is ordinary, and if you take late 2019 Retallick, then it's all ordinary.
He's a goner, mate.
If ever there was a weekend for a Brian Lochore-style, "Gone to Auckland..." note on the fridge, it's this one.
Failing that, he could be playing in a Ranfurly shield challenge.
But, Big Brodie is doing neither of those things.
He's browsing the Off-Topic section to find the best craft beers with which to stock his fridge and to pick up handy hints on how to appropriately salt and marinate his brisket.
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Chris-B Big Brodie is already back in Japan.
That's the most unpatriotic thing I've heard all week!
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Tim said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Our lineout looks pretty vulnerable. A skinny rookie lock, no targets at 7 or 8, and an unproven six (is he any good as a target?).
Sotutu should be starting at 8, and would give an option.
Ta$man has used Frizell at lock quite frequently. He made the lineout steal on Sunday that led to our first try.
But, you're right - by my reckoning we've probably got our 4th and 8th choice locks starting.
Retallick, Whitelock, Barrett, Tuipolotu, Dickson, Strange, Parkinson Vaa'i.
Everything after Retallic is ordinary, and if you take late 2019 Retallick, then it's all ordinary.
Jacob Pierce will be next year's saviour.
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@Kiap said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Relax, guys. Our blokes' best chance is at Suncorp and then perhaps still having a shot in the dead rubber in Sydney.
ABs by two tries at Eden Park, cementing Foster in place for years to come.
Aussie venues the other way around. Sydders first 31/10, Brissie 7/11
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@Tim said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Tim said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Our lineout looks pretty vulnerable. A skinny rookie lock, no targets at 7 or 8, and an unproven six (is he any good as a target?).
Sotutu should be starting at 8, and would give an option.
Ta$man has used Frizell at lock quite frequently. He made the lineout steal on Sunday that led to our first try.
But, you're right - by my reckoning we've probably got our 4th and 8th choice locks starting.
Retallick, Whitelock, Barrett, Tuipolotu, Dickson, Strange, Parkinson Vaa'i.
Everything after Retallic is ordinary, and if you take late 2019 Retallick, then it's all ordinary.
Jacob Pierce will be next year's saviour.
So we keep hearing
We’ll need another good lock so Scooter can play blindside full time
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@Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.
I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’
These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
A lot of talk about about Beaudy's achilles - Beaudy mentioned today it dates back to last year pre-RWC - wonder if that is the reason for his drop in speed over the last 12 months or so?
well isn't that convenient? I'm not old, I've just been hurt for 14 months (while continuing to play so i get my filthy Yen). Not my fault guv
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.
I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’
These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.
wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester? Good player, but that wasn't his main role.
Anyone questioning Gibbes had no clue about rugby. But also a good culture man.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.
I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’
These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.
wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester? Good player, but that wasn't his main role.
Anyone questioning Gibbes had no clue about rugby. But also a good culture man.
Yeah a lot of Henry's initial selections were driven by the lack of leadership and the softness up front in 03. My memory is that he generally got a lot of goodwill for that because he looked like he was actually trying to address the issues we had in 03 (quite the contrast to Foster). This was only reinforced after seeing Hayman and Robinson belting Danny Grewcock in that first test in charge - kinda made you think things were going to be OK
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@Duluth said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
- Joe Moody (47)
- Dane Coles (70)
- Ofa Tuungafasi (36)
- Patrick Tuipulotu (31)
- Tupou Vaa’i (1)
- Shannon Frizell (10)
- Sam Cane (69) - captain
- Ardie Savea (45)
- Aaron Smith (93)
- Richie Mo’unga (18)
- Caleb Clarke (1)
- Jack Goodhue (14)
- Anton Lienert-Brown (44)
- Jordie Barrett (18)
- Beauden Barrett (84)
- Codie Taylor (51)
- Alex Hodgman - debut
- Nepo Laulala (27)
- Scott Barrett (36)
- Hoskins Sotutu (1)
- TJ Perenara (65)
- Rieko Ioane (30)
- Damian McKenzie (24)
WTF? Dropping Rieko to the bench is dumb. Disappointed that Foster continues to overlook Akira Ioane who could be World Class. Frizell is unconvincing. Our exciting young specialist 8 is still stuck on the bench. Mo'unga is a fine player at Super Level but unconvincing as a Test 10. Our best Test 10 (twice World player of the year) is at 15, our best 15 is on the Wing, the Centres are the wrong way round. Arguably the most exciting young back in World Rugby, Will Jordan, doesn't make the 23. Rennie and his men must be laughing.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.
I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’
These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.
wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester? Good player, but that wasn't his main role.
Anyone questioning Gibbes had no clue about rugby. But also a good culture man.
But they dropped Mertz
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.
I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’
These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.
wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester? Good player, but that wasn't his main role.
Anyone questioning Gibbes had no clue about rugby. But also a good culture man.
It was apparently after the last loss in the tri-nations in 2004 that the three coaches, McCaw and Umaga realised the culture had to change.
Rush fined, given written warning for drunken antics - NZ Herald