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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="554914" data-time="1454023850">
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/behind-the-lines/2016/jan/28/roger-wilson-interview-ulster-ireland-rugby-union'>‘Jesus, I’ve got slow’: the pain of approaching the end of a rugby career</a></p>
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="554916" data-time="1454024949">
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    <p>That was awesome Tim. Different levels obviously, but i really identified with how he was feeling, in terms of during the game, after the game, and what i miss the most. I finished at the same age he is as well.</p>
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    <p>I am most of the way through Dan's book. One thing i will say, it's refreshingly honest. </p>
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    <p>Not so fecking awesome for me - he is a prime member of a back row whose most effective asset is (until the end of the season, at least) Nick fecking Williams . . .</p>

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      I can relate to that as well. By his age i had been moved from 7 into the world's smallest 2nd rower

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        <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/30/eddie-jones-england-six-nations'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/30/eddie-jones-england-six-nations</a><br><br>
        Really enjoyed this

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          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="555380" data-time="1454207783">
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          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/30/eddie-jones-england-six-nations'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/30/eddie-jones-england-six-nations</a><br><br>
          Really enjoyed this</p>
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          <p>Yep that was fascinating.</p>

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            Reminded me of the Wayne Bennett quote along the lines of 'when I stop chipping them, they're either perfect or they're gone - and they need to decide which one pretty quick'. Some similarities there.

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              <p>Finished Dan's book last week. As i said, i respected its honesty (likes beers, bored of the tri nations, wanted to quit) but i felt it was really light on these same areas that could have made it a sporting book with a bit of difference.</p>
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              <p>It's also badly written. Did you know Gilbert Enoka is the fantastic All Blacks mental skills coach? It's only mentioned about 100 times in the book.  </p>

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                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="555778" data-time="1454368114">
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                <p>It's also badly written. Did you know Gilbert Enoka is the fantastic All Blacks mental skills coach? It's only mentioned about 100 times in the book.  </p>
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                <p>That, and the fact that he'd like to get into player's off field development once he retires. I think at one point he says it twice within three sentences.</p>

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                  <p>Great interview with Mike Gibson.</p>
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                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/other-rugby/im-not-sure-id-have-wanted-to-be-a-professional-paul-kimmage-meets-rugby-legend-mike-gibson-34430028.html'>http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/other-rugby/im-not-sure-id-have-wanted-to-be-a-professional-paul-kimmage-meets-rugby-legend-mike-gibson-34430028.html</a></p>

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                    <p>Murray Kinsella's at it again:</p>
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                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.the42.ie/ireland-wales-scrum-analysis-4-2595266-Feb2016/'>http://www.the42.ie/ireland-wales-scrum-analysis-4-2595266-Feb2016/</a></p>
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                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-wales-six-nations-2016-attack-2594078-Feb2016/'>http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-wales-six-nations-2016-attack-2594078-Feb2016/</a></p>
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                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-defence-wales-six-nations-2016-2591653-Feb2016/'>http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-defence-wales-six-nations-2016-2591653-Feb2016/</a></p>

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                      <p>Mick Byrne interview</p>
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                      <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/former-all-blacks-skills-coach-mick-byrne-is-open-to-a-future-with-the-wallabies/news-story/b45fa8fa17705ce188ebfe888c2a92e5'>http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/former-all-blacks-skills-coach-mick-byrne-is-open-to-a-future-with-the-wallabies/news-story/b45fa8fa17705ce188ebfe888c2a92e5</a></p>

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                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="563706" data-time="1457591956">
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                        <p>Mick Byrne interview</p>
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                        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/former-all-blacks-skills-coach-mick-byrne-is-open-to-a-future-with-the-wallabies/news-story/b45fa8fa17705ce188ebfe888c2a92e5'>http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/former-all-blacks-skills-coach-mick-byrne-is-open-to-a-future-with-the-wallabies/news-story/b45fa8fa17705ce188ebfe888c2a92e5</a></p>
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                        <p>Good read that one, was about to post that as well.  Be interesting if he ended up working with the Wallabies, can't blame him I guess.  It will be interesting who fills this role for the All Blacks going forward (or is it already filled?), and whether there is a drop off in these types of skills.</p>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1457602462" data-cid="563747" data-author="Unite"><p>Good read that one, was about to post that as well.  Be interesting if he ended up working with the Wallabies, can't blame him I guess.  It will be interesting who fills this role for the All Blacks going forward (or is it already filled?), and whether there is a drop off in these types of skills.</p></blockquote>I recall Hart saying it wasn't his job as All Black coach to teach skills they should know how to catch a ball at level ~ talk about changes in coaching at the All Black level.

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                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gary" data-cid="563786" data-time="1457635435">
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                            <p>I recall Hart saying it wasn't his job as All Black coach to teach skills they should know how to catch a ball at level ~ talk about changes in coaching at the All Black level.</p>
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                            <p>It has been going on at lower levels for sometime now.</p>
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                            <p>The theory seems to be that you can't coach instinct, size and freak abilities but you can take players with these attributes and (if they have the desire) improve their skills endlessly.</p>
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                            <p>I used to go to schoolboy trial musters where I was gobsmacked at the number of guys there with very low skill levels. Many could hardly pass a ball one way let alone both ways. Yet the final selections had more of these guys than those with good ball skills.</p>
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                            <p>I like his anecdote about teams passing to the left. It's why left wingers in club teams usually get better opportunities than right wingers. Watch a club game and see how often the ball dies in the midfield when going left to right compared to the other way.</p>
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                            <p>I think it is simply that the pro game allows coaching teams far more time to work on skills so they can afford to teach and enhance that area.</p>

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                              Milk
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                              <p>Another good piece of analysis from the42.ie</p>
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                              <p><strong>Analysis: The Chiefs' brilliant 'tackle only' tactic backfired against the Blues</strong></p>
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                              <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-no-ruck-blues-backfired-2715116-Apr2016/'>http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-no-ruck-blues-backfired-2715116-Apr2016/</a></p>

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                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="554989" data-time="1454035027">
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                                <p>I've pretty much given up on Rugby books to the point where I won't even flick through them at Whitcoulls. Norm Hewitts was awesome and head over heels above the rest cos he wasn't afraid to have a go at people he thought had wronged him, Peter Fats, Justin Marshall and Josh Kronfelds were also pretty good although far less eye opening but you get the feeling with the rest that none of the former ( as is usually the case ) players want to bite the hand that might still feed them one day. They're just boring.</p>
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                                <p>I've probably mentioned it on the Fern before (maybe on this thread - can't be bothered looking back) but the worst autobiography I read was Ian Jones' "Unlocked". After getting through his uninteresting early years, his rugby days consisted of stories I had already read in other ABs' autobiographies. On the upside, at least he didn't release it as an audio book, the garbled fuckwit.</p>

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                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="572315" data-time="1460656007">
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                                  <p>Another good piece of analysis from the42.ie</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><strong>Analysis: The Chiefs' brilliant 'tackle only' tactic backfired against the Blues</strong></p>
                                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-no-ruck-blues-backfired-2715116-Apr2016/'>http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-no-ruck-blues-backfired-2715116-Apr2016/</a></p>
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                                  <p>interesting article.i remember in that brumbies game i was calling for pocock to be penalized for obstruction on leitch.</p>

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Smudge" data-cid="572327" data-time="1460668541">
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                                    <p>I've probably mentioned it on the Fern before (maybe on this thread - can't be bothered looking back) but the worst autobiography I read was Ian Jones' "Unlocked". After getting through his uninteresting early years, his rugby days consisted of stories I had already read in other ABs' autobiographies. On the upside, at least he didn't release it as an audio book, the garbled fuckwit.</p>
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                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Have you not read Graham Henry Potter and the Final Word?  Appalling.</p>

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                                      Siam
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                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="572315" data-time="1460656007">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>Another good piece of analysis from the42.ie</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p><strong>Analysis: The Chiefs' brilliant 'tackle only' tactic backfired against the Blues</strong></p>
                                      <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-no-ruck-blues-backfired-2715116-Apr2016/'>http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-no-ruck-blues-backfired-2715116-Apr2016/</a></p>
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                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>If I worked for Sky TV and their rugby analysis shows, I'd just copy this guy's newspaper articles, turn it into a show and watch my salary escalate...</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>It's great insight although I'd avoid eye contact with Dave Rennie</p>

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                                        <p>It ain't a read but it's good</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>

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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Smudge" data-cid="572327" data-time="1460668541">
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                                          <p>I've probably mentioned it on the Fern before (maybe on this thread - can't be bothered looking back) but the worst autobiography I read was Ian Jones' "Unlocked". After getting through his uninteresting early years, his rugby days consisted of stories I had already read in other ABs' autobiographies. On the upside, at least he didn't release it as an audio book, the garbled fuckwit.</p>
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                                          <p>Ha, I thought it was ok.....well, at least compared to Todd Blackadders book. "Gee, Toddys a good bloke, would do anything for the team". Yawn."Unlocked" is a terrible title.....but "Loyal" is next level, it just makes you hate Dave Dobbyn even more for that wretched fucken god awful turd of a song......</p>

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